By: Annna [2001-08-08]

Occasional, Serendipitous Vengeance

blah blah blah SCHOOL blah blah HATE blah blah GRADUATING IN 10 DAYS


Never trust a hippie.



A few semesters ago I had to do a presentation with in an otherwise enjoyable class. The class was Pop Culture, and I'd picked it hoping that the standard time delay on textbooks would have us all studying Devo lyrics and Twin Peaks. Sadly, this was not to be, but it was still an interesting class. The professor was twice our age and well read, so communicating about pop culture with the callow youth of today proved to be fairly difficult. Good thing I was there to bridge the gap! For once my spotty yet uncanny knowledge of trends of yesteryear came in rather handy.

After writing my paper about the Cthulhu Mythos (which I will tend to do if left alone in a room with a word processor), I had to sign up to put on a presentation on one of the lecture topics. Although the Elvis and the Day of the Dead topics looked promising, I really had my eye on the subject of horror films. The article we were reading stopped in the early 1960s with Dracula and werewolves, and I really wanted to share my theories about the meaning of zombies with the class.

Which I will tend to do anyway.

The professor announced that he would post the signup sheet outside his office door after class, so I rushed there as soon as my other classes were done for the day, hoping against hope that at least one of the good topics would have some room left.

I was the third person to sign up, and the other two had chosen the Barbie article to expound on. I didn't take this as a bad sign and immediately wrote my name under Horror and began thinking about zombies.

Which I will tend to do, but this time it was for academic reasons.

Then I met with my group. It was all female, not a terribly favorable sign under normal circumstances but even less so when the topic is early horror films. To my disbelief, none of them had seen any horror films, and certainly not the old 1960s and earlier movies that the article talked about. Some of them hadn't seen any movies that had been made any earlier than the 1980s.

We gathered in one girl's house to plan the presentation. Due to conflicting schedules, this was the day before the presentation was due. This didn't seem to concern anyone besides me.

The girl who lived there had a rat, a beanbag chair and a big woven Jerry Garcia wall hanging. Two of those three smelled like rat urine and the wall hanging stunk of marijuana smoke. The carpet would have as well if it hadn't been too busy being soggy with beer mold. The air curdled; the stench was as oppressive as it could have been without being visible.

The third girl was late, and I took the opportunity to play with the first girl's rat and wait for olfactory fatigue. The rat crawled behind my neck and started making a nest in my hair. That's when the third girl showed up, wrinkling her nose. As we gathered up our books to discuss the presentation, the rat crawled over to my shoulder. As it turned out, the third girl was terrified of rats.

Things went downhill from there. Not only was I the only person who had ever seen a horror movie (even if you counted Scream), I was also the only person who had gotten around to reading the article. I read my notes - typed! - on the zombie menace and explained how zombies aren't the sex urge or anything but nominally nocturnal; they symbolize crowds and the fear of the mob that can only be put into a symbol by a democratic nation, then adopted by an ex-Fascist one.

I waxed pretty goddamn lyrical, if I do say so myself.

Of course, the other girls didn't want to put forth any effort at all. After trying to prod the group towards a plan of action without becoming the "leader," I ended up gritting my teeth and assigning them to cover certain points of what I guessed would be arguments they could handle. Then I thought that maybe we could do something fun, something that'd be fun for us, fun for the class, and eat up precious minutes of their part of the presentation. Based on the article, we could dramatize the conflict between the id and superego in the terms of horror movies!

They seemed interested, so I ended up dragging my gorilla outfit, a stereo, a flashlight, several books and a cap gun to class for what turned out to be no reason. They told me 5 minutes before we were up that they had decided it was "too hard" to do our little skit. Since they neither of them brought any props to class, I have to assume they decided this as soon as I left and didn't bother to tell me.

The only thing more embarrassing to me than showing up unprepared is showing up overprepared, a bag full of props or project indicating that I stupidly thought my class partners were more reliable than they were and have been left holding the bag. I kept everything except the stereo in my backpack. Let the class think I was packing gym clothes or library books.

As for my partners, screw 'em. One thing I do like about presentations is that even with one person doing all the visual aids and cue cards, you can still tell who held up their end. Their sections were dull and lifeless, while mine was manageable and full of body. I put forth my theory about how zombies aren't sexual, and are thus a more mature horror movie theme than stupid sublimated sex hang-ups dressed like they came from the opera. I presented this at great length and with hand gestures, big hand gestures.

I also had the stereo going with a Horror Sounds of the Night-ripoff playing in the background, which adds a lot more to a presentation than you'd think. It was a CD of people randomly shrieking, moaning, cackling and rattling chains, with assorted wolf, cat and cricket noises. The canned unpredictable interjections created the illusion that I'd somehow timed my speech so shrieks cut in at exactly the right time. It'd probably have worked out the same if I'd been giving my Economics report instead, which isn't such a bad idea.

My part of the speech was also the only section that sparked questions and public debate, as they were all supposed to. I knew my zombie stuff. As was the only member of the group who'd even seen horror movies, after all, I was a little pleased to be defending my adopted genre from such morons. I stood quietly by while they gave their halting paraphrases of the one or two concepts they'd managed to glean from the article. I also left the stereo on, and the constant screams and moans seemed to be rattling them. After a bit, one of the girls slipped off a jelly sandal (of course they wore jelly sandals, dying plastic exposing unwashed feet, pink pearl polish outgrown and cracked over yellow toenails) and tried to surreptitiously turn it off with a grimy toe. I say "tried" because she ended up pressing the "track forward" button instead, and was rewarded with GHOST PIRATES.

Creaking ship, chains, seagulls, chanteys in the distance and lots of people saying ARRR rattled her even more, and to the observer it appeared that she'd chosen this somewhat inappropriate background music on purpose, trying to follow in my (well-prepared, adequately shod) footsteps and failing.

I got a much better grade. I felt a little bad for upstaging my partners, but they did it all themselves and for once, a group project rewarded the dutiful and punished the lazy.

Which, every so often, they will do.
lateness, also possibly lameness [2001-08-08 16:00:01] Annna
perhaps you see a sign on me that says WEDNESDAY UPDATE PERSON? no, I don't think you do. feh.
this kicks 200k ass [2001-08-08 16:11:39] Lou Duchez
All the frustrations of this ordeal aside, it sounds like a grand and glorious event, in retrospect. You got to do things your way, sort of, and it sounds like the coolest presentation anyone in the class had seen this century.

Congratulations on graduating! I'm guessing you've managed to do so in about four years -- almost unheard-of these days -- and you probably racked up an impressive record in the process.
Is it just me ... [2001-08-08 16:20:51] Lou Duchez
... or are flies getting slower these days?
Circles [2001-08-08 16:54:10] König Prüß, GfbAEV
It seems that you have drawn a larger circle for yourself than your classmates (not peers) have chosen to draw for themselves, tough shit for them, says I! I run into many who seem to have longs lists of things that they've never heard of, never done, don't like. I refuse to fit into a smaller circle inside their too small circle, so they get uncomfortable. Not that my circle is very large, just not small. One woman whose life I envy was born in Egypt to a French mom and a Russian father, and so grew up speaking five or so languages. She learned more than a dozen languages and got a Ph. D. in linguistics and works as a stockbroker. Anyway, I think that the "Dumbing-Down of America" is working. Once, a friend showed me a big hardback book called, "The History of Anti-Intellectualism in America." It's out-of-print. But today, I found an old homemade tape that I've had kicking around for a couple of years and I'd not listened to it, so I put it on an start reading this article, and a nice reggae version of "You Are My Shunshine" come blatting out of my booty of a Sanyo stereo for which I've only just found the remote control.


congrats, also, thingsihate trends [2001-08-08 17:55:29] staniel
it sounds like the people at four-year schools aren't any more advanced than those at community college. go figure. it works out well for emergency updates that your classmates are so k-lame, though.
too bad you couldn't have demonstrated a point (or pretended to) in your presentation by tossing the jelly sandal out the window. my music theory teacher in high school used to do that to one rather squeaky girl. I hear she's badass now, so maybe such treatment got her nose out of the air and into the gutter. band directors rock. this is the one who would take smoke breaks 7/8ths the length of the class period, and who got kicked out of the old Harwan theater at Rocky Horror for bringing an acetylene torch to the lighter scene.
oh [2001-08-08 17:58:13] staniel
the other trend I note is You Are My Sunshine.
and pirates are even better than band directors. if only we could combine them...
Graduate School [2001-08-08 18:14:37] König Prüß, GfbAEV
I kind of liked going to graduate school, I might go more, but I can't get behind the ideas of thesis writing. I'd probably go to American U. some more, although it's too expensive and they are currently sueing the Army for $85 mil for all the leftover chemical warfare crap; a few people in that neighborhood have died of some weird kind of bone cancer. I like Goddard in Vermont, but it seems like they wanted me to start all over. Locally, George Mason U. is getting a lot better that it was when I went there long ago. I might go to Thailand for a while.
I wish they'd had computers when I was a little kid. Oh, well; now I lament that the really good computers won't be built 'til after I'm turned to dust. Mostly, I'm very grateful that I'm not normal! There are some cool houseboats in Seattle.
good behavior [2001-08-08 22:24:21] Annna
Actually, I'm graduating after three years, plus one semester (this summer). Not that that's necessarily a good thing.
extra-impressive!! [2001-08-09 04:38:07] Lou Duchez
Getting out of college early isn't necessarily a bad thing. Or are you going to grad school?

I didn't do grad school; I have mixed feelings about that. On the one hand, my life would have taken a totally different direction had I gone to grad school, and I wonder what might have been. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure I no longer have the gumption for incessant studies: after 12 years of working, which have been characterized by them paying me for jumping through hoops, I don't think I could go back to the college scene.

At the end of the day, though, a person's true vocation is making one's self a worthwhile individual. Any path towards this end is a good one.
Books [2001-08-09 04:47:14] König Prüß, GfbAEV
It has occured to me, "Annna might write some books." Also, "Annna might even print her own books." One thing, PC's have sure changed the printing business. Weird things happen in book publishing; there's one sci-fi writer who's more popular in Poland than here, kind of like that author in "Romancing the Stone" who was popular among the mountain bandits in Colombia. I was checking out screen writing, and they make software for screen writers now. In the olden days, they would tell college graduates glowing and flowery things about the Future, but the Future actually happpened early in the last century, which leaves us with nothing but a lot of slack time on our hands.
Zombies and Group Presentations [2001-08-09 05:33:59] Mr. Jim
If you did your zombie notes electronically, it would be wonderful if you feel like sharing. I am curious about the "zombies aren't the sex urge" theory; to me the scenes in a lot of zombie movies have quite a strong sexual subtext (the zombie-brother in Night of the Living Dead leaps immediately to mind, as does the Freudian zombie-mom from Dead Alive; another silly example would be "if you loved me you'd let me eat your brains"). Though in those subtexts, there's still the idea of being pressed, stifled, suffocated -- which to me has as much to do with the American nuclear family as with American democracy.

The "group presentation" thing applies to business every bit as much to work as school. Went to Germany last month for a presenation of a programming project; it was not hard to tell who had been trying to develop a system, and who had been trying to sabotage it because it would be in her interest for the project to fail.

And yes, if you want to meet the most ignorant people in the world, try the undergrads of a reputable four-year school. I wound up studying Computer Science because the discussion groups in the Humanities courses gave me ulcers.

http://www.angryflower.com/brains.gif
Correction [2001-08-09 05:38:18] Mr. Jim
"The 'group presentation' thing applies to business every bit as much to work as school"

What I meant to say was of course meant what to say I meant.
Zombie dissertation [2001-08-09 06:23:47] Lou Duchez
I too would be interested in knowing more about zombies, and the psychology beneath them.

My own take would be that they reflect the underlying fear of other people we all have, because when push comes to shove, other people have the power to cause us harm, no matter how good we usually are at talking our way out of things. But this is not a well-thought-out position, and I would be quite keen on hearing the Annna perspective. All the same, I am quite bummed out that I won't be able to see the large sweeping hand gestures ...
Tch. [2001-08-09 11:19:58] Riff
And all this time I thought they represented people's fear of slimy undead monsters that want to eat your brains. Color me unintellectual, I guess. The Hellraiser series was the only horror I ever particularly liked anyway.

Why, why, why would someone who had never seen a horror movie choose 'horror' for a class project? Can you define 'dumbshit'? Out of interest, what were some of the other topics?

(and BTW, Congratulation! A Winner Is You!)
Congratulations, Annna! [2001-08-09 13:38:59] Jonas
Congrats on graduation, I hope you had and have a blast!

I hate presentations, group or otherwise. The last one I had to give one was in PoliSci, about the German government. Not too taxing but a presentation nonetheless. I thought about having my partner and I slick our blonde hair back, wear black turtlenecks, and play Kraftwerk on a stereo vhile vee tahkt about der Churman government. But instead I stared down at my notes and mumbled them as fast as I could.
ZOMBI [2001-08-09 14:08:05] staniel
I think we all would like a taste of the zombie analysis. I never really thought much about it before, but I think the ultimate zombie is just a human being minus the humanity. so, you can have your evil spirits or radiation or what have you, you can make them eat brains or bump uglies (back to Dead Alive again), but the core of any zombie is that they're repulsive because they're soulless, but alive. a dead body that isn't stumbling about may elicit a variety of emotions, but even if there's fear or disgust, it's not the same fear or disgust we'd have of a zombie. vampires don't work on this level; they're coherent and usually melodramatic... I'm not sure if they should even be considered undead, they just continue their lives in an altered state. I'd like a White Wolf Zombie game, especially live action... everyone just stumbles around going "braaaaains" and occasionally rolling damage or to see if they can open an unlocked door.
classic monsters [2001-08-09 14:40:35] Lou Duchez
I guess the classic monsters are classics because they speak to some latent fear in each of us. With zombies, I think you've hit the nail on the head: being attacked by people without any souls and without any remorse. That's different from, say, the Borg, who have an agenda, and at least we can respect them for that. Zombies, though, are appetites without conscience -- and possibly they make us wonder what our fellow man would be like in the absence of societal norms?

The mummy is likely a classic because it just doesn't forgive. Commit a transgression and it will hound you to the ends of the earth; it's sort of like being nagged by guilt.

Werewolves? Could be a fear of embarrassing one's self in social situations, but more likely, they resonate in those of us who are big on self-control.

Vampires might speak to the part of us that can be seduced by evil.

Greys and Norman Bates are about getting us when we're utterly defenseless. They violate the safety of our beds or our showers.

I'm just coming up with this off the top of my head, so if anyone cares to identify holes in this, I'd appreciate it.
philosophical question [2001-08-09 15:36:12] Lou Duchez
Suppose you were a genetically-altered lab mouse who every night engaged in a world-domination scheme. Would you prefer to be the superintelligent moody one, or the goofy one who plays hide-and-seek with sandwiches?

For the life of me, I can't decide.
David Byrne [2001-08-09 16:02:03] König Prüß, GfbAEV
Ha! David Byrne is coming back to DC on 9/29! Lots of good music, but now I want to see something like "The eXtreme Pussies" or "Glamour Elvii!"
World Domination [2001-08-09 16:11:28] König Prüß, GfbAEV
I read a sci-fi story a long time ago about a kind of utopia where everyone had telepathy. They were happy, they had plenty of everything, lots of arts and entertainments. But as an experiment to test theories about "the bad old days," a social scientist raised a person without telepathy. Sure enough, they got plenty bossy, and came up with a plan to build a tower. Everyone went along with the plan, what the hell, let's humor the nutbag, plus, there's nothing much else going on. So, they built the guy his tower, wherein he ensconced himself. King of the Hill. HooHa! Meanwhile, everyone else went on about their regular happy lives. But if I was a mouse, I'd want all of the cheese!
Vampires, vampyres [2001-08-09 18:04:47] J Speed
As far as I know, the medieval vampire was little more than a bestial, nocturnal animated corpse, much like the post-Romero zombie. It wasn't until Polidori that we had the idea of a vampire who acts like a person, or a person who is secretly a vampire.
Vlad [2001-08-09 19:14:23] König Prüß, GfbAEV
Vlad Dracul made vampires famous, but Vlad the Impaler caused all that confusion about the wooden stakes and vampires, due to his habit of planting human corn dogs all over the place.
Voivod Vladimir Tepes [2001-08-09 19:36:54] staniel
ha! corn dogs. they've got those at the supermarket now, um, not the human ones... and I could really go for a corn dog right about now. and some funnel cake.
rock band names [2001-08-09 19:49:17] Lou Duchez
Goddamn, I'd pay good money to see "The Human Corn Dogs".

Also, I'd pay to see "The Anal Rape Carton", "The Hanging Condiment Spoons", and of course "The Toilet Ball Cocks".
Yeah! [2001-08-09 20:42:06] König Prüß, GfbAEV
"The Imploding Funnel Cake Zombies!"
Hey, Jonas! [2001-08-09 22:34:34] König Prüß, GfbAEV
I was rooting around and found this about librarians; heretofor, I did not think librarians very interesting!
http://www.odyssee.net/charro/HERMES5/Winter.htm
back to article... [2001-08-09 23:49:09] staniel
I'm still not over those jelly sandals. sandal trends to me are a big indicator of the state of American youth. and right now they're more fond of ugly mass-produced crap than ever. the jelly sandal is an ultra-cheap, molded creature, perched at the apex of garishness, and it's interesting that this thing that had to have a market created for it, that had to occupy thousands of feet^3 of storage in the back room of every Target, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, &c... that basically had to be inserted into the market in bulk but without fanfare, to make these poor emptyheads think they were a fact of life... if they had been heavily advertised upon invention, maybe there would have been a fad that petered out. but this is the next bobo. (out here, bobos were still being purchased until a few years ago. granted, for $5/pair, but the fact that bobo aftershock lasted so many years...)
maybe I've been looking at girls' feet too much, eh?
also... [2001-08-09 23:56:00] staniel
I've noticed that these jellysandals/cheapperfume/vacantgiggling types always have an undercurrent of stale fart odor to go along with the makeup and aforementioned perfume smells. is this a characteristic of Sunflowers or is there a more sinister reason? perhaps ignorance promotes flatulence, or perhaps these persons would have not developed into bimbos if they had not been so ashamed of their gastrointestinal functions, but the shame forced them to devote an inordinate amount of time to the search for acceptance, and they succeeded too well?
I command you to email me! [2001-08-10 00:02:09] Annna
What is a good scanner/software for someone who basically likes to draw things with non-repro blue pencil and ink them with black things she finds around the house? I have purchased the Umax Astra 3400 and it VEXES ME GREATLY. I DO NOT WISH TO CLICK ONE BUTTON AND EMAIL THINGS. I DO NOT WANT TO MAKE SCREENSAVERS. I HAVE NO PHOTOGRAPHS; I HAVE NO FRIENDS. BUT LO, I HAVE THE RECEIPT. All I want to do is scan in bad line art and clean it up a little bit maybe, but if I can scan it in with only the black lines, and the black lines scan in nicely, I can remove a couple of screw-ups with MSPAINT.

All the info I can find online is either dated or a red herring.

Also, I am cheap.

Maybe I will go to the computer lab and find out what software their scanner uses (and I don't mean I adjust it in Photoshop; just scanning it I could diddle with the controls and wash out the blue). Perhaps the summer staff will not be watching the scanner for 10 minutes, which would also greatly reduce scanner dollar outlay.
stealing [2001-08-10 00:22:56] staniel
everything about it is appealing!
Graphics [2001-08-10 00:32:59] König Prüß, GfbAEV
From reading that, I've not much of a foggy except that you are having graphics dilemmae. I might suggest that you try PaintShop Pro7; I like the older 5.1 version better myself, and it works with lots of filters like EyeCandy and RubberMan and other PhotoShop stuff.
Try their tester, and if you like it, I can advise you about filters,
brushes, magic wand, and anigifs. Anyway, it's prolly better than what you are using, and a lot less bulky than PhotoShop.

http://www.jasc.com/
Hey staniel! [2001-08-10 01:12:58] Mr. Jim
"I'd like a White Wolf Zombie game, especially live action"

It exists.

Zombie: the Gibbering
http://www.vamp.org/Gothic/Text/zombie1.html

I wonder what it would be like to get some folks together to play this. In the Prague tourist district at 1 in the morning, no one would even notice us.
hehe [2001-08-10 01:18:54] staniel
thanks, that's pretty good... but I'm more interested in hearing about this pseudo-zombified tourist district.
Clasic monsters.. a rebuff/ swarmy agreement [2001-08-10 05:59:27] Paul
I'm thinks that wearwolfs are more a sort of 'beast within' kick- you know your walking along, minding your own bussiness, and the next thing you know, the red mist rises from your eyes and the streets covered with what looks like a couple of boxes of pal-freeze's best.
Zombies are unstoppable, so (my opinion, based on boys first book of pop pschology [spelling?])is that they represent the inevitablity of death and the attending dread that this causes in most people.
I have occasional periods when this inevitablity grants me a terrific sense of freedom~ Nothing I do matters, so it can't go wrong! bwahahahahahahahahaha I am invicable! Generally, I get over it.

I desperatly want to know where I read that you could defeat vampires by stealing and hiding their socks.

And what yes what is represented by the badly-acted zombie-alian vampiyra in Plan nine from outer space?
pseudo-zombified tourist district [2001-08-10 08:18:12] Mr. Jim
The Czech inhabitants of Prague, despite (or perhaps due to) being among the most open-minded and decadent people on this Earth, tend to go home to their beds quite early. So in the odd hours of the night around Prague 1 and 2 (around the Charles Bridge and the Old Town Square, if you're keeping track), the only things moving are singing happy drunks, filthy street urchins, squint eyed rogues, blubbering idiots, and all the other characters from the Town level of Angband. A few zombies more or less would go unnoticed.

Lest anyone think I am criticising the city: the funny thing is that it is PERFECTLY SAFE. Despite the surrealism of the environment, no one there is going to shoot you, dismember you, abuse you without permission, or otherwise do anything more than be a little creepy and bothersome, or at worst beat you up a bit and take your wallet (those are the police). Granted, the murder rate is about double that of western Europe; that's still something like five times less than in the States.

This message brought to you by the Prague Zombie Tourism board, who would like to point out that the Czechs have the world's highest literacy rate. Think rich, cultured, alcohol-soaked brains: think Prague.
Footwear of the Damned [2001-08-10 08:29:19] Lou Duchez
Does this help?

http://f-sharon.tripod.com/left_sock.txt

Vampira represents the fear of demotion: in this case, having to take a paycut and work in a crappy movie. Compare to that other legendary figure of memento mori, Angela Lansbury, whose show "Murder She Wrote" was a Haven for the Hollywood Damned.

For someone who looks just like a Teddy Ruxpin, Angela sure saw her share of death on that show. God knows I'd never invite her to a family reunion. I always wanted to see a crossover between "Murder She Wrote" and "Touched by an Angel", just to have a scene where TbaA's Andrew (a very compassionate Angel of Death) and Angela Lansbury pass each other in the hall, and exchange greetings like long-time coworkers. "Hey." "Yo."

Pick on Angela Lansbury as I might, I do have to say this for her. I know of one case of an actress who hadn't worked for some time due to failing health, and as such her actor's medical insurance was about to be cut. Talk about Catch-22's. But Angela found out about this and made sure to write her into the show, which kept her insurance going. That's pretty cool.
Legba [2001-08-10 08:46:03] König Prüß, GfbAEV
One summer, I went to Provincetown, Massachusetts. There was a summerstock kind of theater there which had been built on an old whaling wharf and had run as a theater since 1911 when Eugene O'Neil couldn't get much of his work stage space in New York City. One of my favorite O'Neil works is "Emperor Jones;" I've not seen EJ done on stage, but I can't imagine it being done better than the Paul Robeson b/w film version. To me, Robeson becomes one of the classic Caribe Legba Voudun Zombies, a cheval possessed by a loa after the tradition of the Bizango cult. To me, voodoo and zombies go together like peas and carrots.
Perfectly Put [2001-08-16 11:07:30] Chefelf
Your article filled me with a profound joy and contentment that can only be felt by someone who knows in their heart that they will never have to do a college project with a bunch of undeserving partners ever again. Thank you Anna for making me smile again.
F'ing Idiots [2003-01-18 09:02:00] Annoyed
Vladimir Tepes Dracul is Vlad the Impaler... They are not different people... he was ruthles... his name Was Vladimir Dracul... Dracul meant dragon, and was used because his father was one of the Dragon knights formed by the pope in rome to protect the turks... hence the -a added to the end making it mean son of... So Vladimir Dracula meant Vladimir son of Vladimir the dragon... but due to his cruelty it soon began to be known as son of the devil, as dragon, and devil were more or less interchangeable... He recieved the second name in their... Tepes do to his fashion of putting prisoners to death... by thicking a stake between their legs... to say it politely.. and hoisting them up so that they would slowly sink further and further down it... sending the spike of it firther and further up... so whoever made the post in this thread earlier saying one made vampires famous, and the other created stake confusion... research before you open your damn mouth...
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