By: Ellie O'Hagan [2001-09-10]

TOWNIES SHOULD BE DROWNED AT BIRTH

This is what I hate.

WHAT IS A TOWNIE?

Also known as trendies, preps and scallies. They're everywhere, and you either hate them or...are one. They're the ones in beige skin-tight circulation stopping trousers that are two sizes two small and shoes that are so big and rubbery that they bounce rather than walk normally.



THE SOPHISTICATED TRENDY:

The most common disguise is white hipsters and synthetic, bright pink boob tubes, with plastic stilettos and an obviously fake leather jacket they bought/stole for 10 pounds/nothing in the sale in the local market.

If you should happen upon one of these, which, if your neighbourhood is anything like mine, you most certainly will, take precaution and stand at a far distance. Otherwise, the toxins from the huge amounts of hairspray holding their ponytails up as high as possible is bound to have some lasting effects on you, none of them good. This disguise works best, as it is hard to recognise them under the layers of orange foundation and lip liner.

The male versions of this kind wear Pinstripe trousers and polo-necks, Tank tops or Ben Sherman shirts, and have a random blob of hair gel with no apparent use positioned somewhere over their fringe. These trendies are the ones who walk down the street waving their mobile phones in the air for all to see and be jealous of (and it works, honest).



THE HARD TRENDY:

These are the trendies who offer themselves as walking adverts for sports companies everywhere. They too have huge amounts of hairspray, but are likely to wear less makeup. The boys have all shaved their heads at least once and / or bleached it like Eminem.

They chew gum a lot, and you will know them from far off because of their posture. If standing, there will probably be a group of them around a bus stop / shop doorway / park bench / some swings. They slump their heads, have a permanent glare, and for some reason stick their chins out like someone is pulling a string attached to their jaw. It is also more than likely they will be holding a cigarette but not smoking it properly.

These trendies are those most likely to hurl abuse at people like myself across the street, for being different to themselves. Most common insults given to boys are all variations of the label gay, for example homeboy, queer, nancy etc. Girls will receive dyke, slapper, and, if like myself, freak, grungey or goth. Beware: it is good for their reputations to fight a lot, so they are looking for excuses to beat you up. Thus they must hunt for their prey.

One of their hunting techniques is to stare at a random person, usually someone younger than them / more intelligent than them / different from them. Then, when the person glances at them and wonders why they are staring, they will say, "What are you looking at? You starting?" and proceed with their popularity gaining antics.

Another trick is to, again, choose a random person, and then quickly make something up like, "Jaye said you've been talking about me? What you been saying about my mother? I heard a rumor goin' round that you wanna start on me" and then beat them up.

This technique is good, because after beating the person up, they can then say - "Jaye, why'd you say she'd been talking about me / my mother? You trying to start something?" and then beat her up. However, do not despair, because these trendies threaten on average 20 people a day, and usually only get around to carrying out 3 of these threats.



THE ALTERNATIVE FASHION TRENDY:

One thing I must make clear is that these trendies do not really dress in alternative clothing. Also, the fact that they are wearing flares and bandannas will not stop them shouting at any real hippies that may walk by.

They will attempt certain looks - for example, the skater look, the rock chick look and the bohemian babe look (as they describe it in tammy girl). However, they will never be able to pull any of these looks off.

The easiest way to differentiate between an alternative fashion trendy and an actual person of alternative fashion is that trendies will usually wear a top saying, "rock chick," "hippy chick" or "urban chick." The genuine article will not wear anything like this.

Also, once you have found one person wearing one of these, anyone else around dressed like that is likely to be a trendy too, as when the rock look comes in to fashion those who were into it before will usually stop dressing that way.

A common aspect of all types of trendy is chunky, fake gold jewelry. The girls wear 8 pairs of huge hooped earrings, and gold crucifixes as an attempt at being holy, but then if you go to a religious school / church you are then a victim for being a "bible basher"... This phrase does not fit as "bible basher" means devil worshipper, but how are they to know?

The boys wear a gold stud in one ear (and if it's the wrong ear then you're gay) and chunky "chains" round their necks. Both sexes wear huge rings with coins stuck to them with cheap glue.



QUESTIONS TRENDIES ASK US:

These are all questions me and my friends have actually been asked. Amazing, isn't it?

You're a virgin aren't you?
You sacrifice virgins don't you?
YOU drink alcohol?! But you're too busy doing homework and stuff...
You drink blood all night don't you?
Is your head an animal? (I promise)
Are you a blacksmith?
Did you just call ME gothic?
Do you get a buzz from dressing like that?
Do you like dressing like that? (No, I hate it...)
Are you a dyke?
Are you gay?
Are you a hippy? A hippy from a chippy?
You're one of them old fashioned people aren't you?
Do you worship Satan?
Do you wear odd socks?
YOU swear?!
You take drugs don't you?
Are you into witchcraft and that?
Do you fly a broomstick?
Are you a weirdo? (Yes.)
Do you make your own clothes?
Are you a fugitive?
Are any of your clothes white?
Do you make lucky charms?
Do you live in a castle?
Are you like that boy on home and away?
Are you a vampire?
Why do you wear red eyeliner?
Why are your eyes red? (They're contacts!!)
Don't you like Adidas? What do you wear then?!
Are you a dog or something?
Are you one of them gothics?
Can you raise the dead?
Are you a kryptic?
Do you have any friends? (What do you call those? Bats?)
Do you wear black because you think white is poisonous?
Do you wear makeup?
Can you read my palm?
Are you a mangled goose?
Are you a hippy-crit?
Are you a human being?
Are you natural?
Do you like Limp Bizkit? (NO!!!!!!!!)
Can I join your witch gang?
Can I be black too?

You're a stupid fockin freak. You worship the devil. You look stupid. I'd kill myself if I was like you. Can I borrow a pencil?
Do you like the moon?
Do you hug trees?
Who would win a fight out of God and Jesus vs. you and the Devil?
Is your underwear black? Can I check?
Are you scum? (You are.)
Are you a witch, cause you're wearing a bike chain around your wrist?
Are you a not well in the head dyke / lesbo in black?
Are you that girl from the Adams family?
Are you a gothmoth?
Why do you have those chains? Are you a dog? (Well, you have lots of "chains" so...Here doggy doggy dog)
Can I burn you?
What do you do when it's not a full moon?
What's a goth?
Are you a GrUnGeEeEeEeEy!!?



THINGS TRENDIES SHOULD KNOW:

The fact that I wear baggy jeans does not make me a goth. Will you get that into your fucking heads?

If someone is a goth, they ARE goths, Thus calling them goths, gothics or gothos will not insult them.

There are only so many times you can tell the "dead have arisen" joke.

Just because we don't sit in bus stops drinking lemon hooch doesn't mean we don't go out.

There is no need to look surprised when you see us doing our makeup. I don't have naturally black eyelids.

Adidas is NOT a designer label. Neither is Tommy Hilfiger, Gap or Ben Sherman.

Rock music is not Elvis.

All people dressed differently than you are not gay, hippies or freaks.

9-year-olds smoking is ridiculous, not cool.

Walking like the hanger is still in your coat does not look hard. Neither does spitting, quoting Eminem lyrics, shaving your head or talking like you have a brick up your arse.

It's fuck, not fock.

Wearing a gold coin on your finger does not make you look rich.

It's not a medallion or a chain, it's a necklace. Get over it.

Being looked at is not an excuse to start a fight.

Working in McDonalds is not a preferable ambition.

I hate to point this out, but you're all wearing the same outfit.

NSYNC do not play their own instruments.

The lyrics to The Backstreet Boys' songs are not deep. Nor is Ronan Keating good looking.

Trying to sing like Christina or Beyonce will not do your common accent any good.

It's not cool to fail all your subjects. Those who pass are not swats who have no life - they're the people you'll be packing shopping bags for when you leave school.

Too much hairspray will kill you.

Buying fake Tommy Hilfiger aftershave will not make you irresistible.

Being good at PE is not an academic achievement.

It may be family practice, but having a baby at 13 is not recommended.

Just because your trainers and shell suit are the same brand doesn't mean the colours can't clash.

Luminous trainers don't go with ANYTHING.

Having competitions to see who can go the longest without breathing whilst consuming the most phlegm of an unintelligent 12 year old outside the school gates does not make us jealous.

Tight combat trousers and coq sportif polo shirts are not skater wear.

Not ALL goths are into wicca.

We don't claim to be original, just different from you.

Chunky gold is horrible, not classy.

Limp Bizkit are not a reference to my musical tastes so saying you like them doesn't impress me.
Hooray! [2001-09-09 22:46:22] staniel
I think this is thingsihate's first international submission, since Vicarious has not yet favored us with an article. Over here, they tend to be called rednecks, hicks, preppies, or trendies. I think our colleagues in Australia and New Zealand refer to them as bogans.

Though, honestly, goths are just as bad sometimes. Search Portal for "goth" for a raft of examples.
Hmmmm [2001-09-09 23:10:40] Halcyon
"Is your underwear black? Can I check?"

Man... I actually kinda think that one is relatively clever, in a sorta.. male pig way. Granted, I never claimed to be otherwise.
And umm.. As far as red eyes, that'd sort abe a natural quesiton I think, you dont often see someone with red eyes, atleast in america...

I guess it's the tone which dictates curiosity vs. disdain, I never was good at tone. All the same, what color IS your underwear Ruth?
Bilious and humourus. [2001-09-10 00:18:25] Jonas and the Pussycats
As a freak alumnus from my old suburban/rural conversative high school I find much of this only all too resonant. It's unfortunate then that the situation appears to be the same, all the way on the other side of the planet. Back in the day such people would've been referred to as homies (m), preppries, skanks (f), and trendwhores, but they seem to be only all too prevalent now (in the suburbs anyway) -- no doubt corelated to the observation of my English teacher, that "the classes are getting stupider every year".

If I might make some additions to the last part:

You can wear as many chains and rings as you want, we all know you bought them at Sears.

Looking as tough as you do must be a feat, especially when you're shopping in the mall... with your mom.

Nike shoes that look like the Batmobile in armoured mode, only bright white, are ugly, and many people wearing them just make them uglier.

Not even three years ago, big silver hoop earrings were solely the denizen of the prostitute: you're doing nothing to remove the stigma.

Same goes for your one-shoulder-missing top.

If I didn't find the first four hundred fake'n'bake, bottle-blonde, pink lip gloss/blue eyeshadow jail baits attractive, how d'you figure you're any different?

Track pants are the new sweat pants -- they are not pants per se. Please do not wear them outside the gym.

Swagger all you want, but as soon as you leave the suburbs and enter the city (i.e., real world), you'll realize just how far your "attitude" will get you.

Sure, your clothes are far trendier than mine, your car has much bigger tailpipes than mine, and your sunglasses cost more than my entire wardrobe: but at least I've graduated -- and you were in my class!


Incidentally, Josie and the Pussycats is a brilliant, highly underrated, movie, and I encourage everyone to go see it.
Townies [2001-09-10 00:31:44] König Prüß, GfbAEV
Here, Townies are what the Summer People call the locals in places like Provincetown and Bar Harbor (pronounced "Bah-Habba") But a lot of what you describe is what we call "Posers" like a poseur, I suppose. I guess that it's just easier for some people to have a pre-packaged dress-code and lifestyle than to "wing it" in an eclectic sort of way.
cultural exchange [2001-09-10 01:00:18] Lou Duchez
Neat article! It's good to hear what's happening elsewhere in the world, even if it sounds rather dire.

Here in Cleveland USA, though, I don't see any of this sort of thing. It may be because I'm 34 and totally out of it, and for all I know Goths and Preppies are shooting each other around me but I never noticed.

Something that's been bothering me of late. My tastes in music did indeed largely stagnate by the time I was 25. The same thing happened to my grandparents, with Guy Lombardo and Glen Miller. But for me it's Uriah Heep, and Emerson Lake and Palmer. So in 40 years am I going to be an old fart going to music stores in a vain attempt to find "Demons and Wizards" in the latest technological format? Will the kids laugh at me for being such a codger? (I already know they will ...)
Here, Lou! [2001-09-10 01:31:11] König Prüß, GfbAEV
Some of these song, I've actually heard before!
duck
Lou does the prog-rock! [2001-09-10 01:56:27] staniel
Some of us kids like King Crimson.
The Bad People [2001-09-10 02:45:58] G.C.
They are everywhere. It may be an ill advised strategy, but when asked one of these questions one might say for instance. "Ah, blow it out your ass." Then produce one of those Klingon styled knives from one's boot, which are easily procured on late-night shopping networks.

Have just finished Cormac McCarthy's "Blood Meridian"...holy crap!!!
Townies [2001-09-10 03:26:59] Big Al
There is another type as well... my least favorite type that tend to populate small towns all over England. Aged Psyco Trendies - over 30, usually going bald, dresses like a 13 year old and normally hard as nails (bouncers, steroid heads, etc). They seem to live for fighting and maiming things! Quite often go out with 14 year old girls as well.
Uncanny! [2001-09-10 07:32:38] König Prüß, GfbAEV
Wowsers! That pretty much describes me to a "T" except for the 14-year old bald girl part. I yam a right sheila bruce! God save the Queen! Undead
Lou is the prog-rocking! [2001-09-10 08:08:30] Lou Duchez
Music's funny stuff. My big concern with most music these days is, discord and dissonance are too often regarded as complexity; deep down, I see most dissonance as a lack of insight on the musician's part. As the cartoon "The Dot and the Line" taught us, a flexible Line can do far more amazing things than a Squiggle can.

Uriah Heep's good for that. Half their stuff is musically structured, half their stuff is a mess, and the other half is good for laughing at.

King Crimson and ELP demonstrate a lot of musical ability and awareness of what they're doing. I'm willing to regard a lot of it as "experimental", which forgives some of their blunders: the pieces that don't work, pave the way for the pieces that do.

I subscribe to the notion that all art communicates something of value either about the human condition or the nature of the cosmos. When you replace melody with a chaotic mess, right there you're severely limiting your ability to generate art; whereas harmonies have a certain intrinsic value. So doo-wop singers on a street corner, or even the Spice Girls, stand a better chance of producing something of value than most of these damn kids these days. IMHO, of course.
Aryan Copeland [2001-09-10 08:17:30] König Prüß, GfbAEV
Amongst my last batch of booty was a CD of ELP which I have in the box now; I listen to "Hoedown," and try to identify all the bits of various songs. It reminds of something like Aaron Copeland would write.
Oh! [2001-09-10 08:19:59] König Prüß, GfbAEV
And while we're at it, let's not leave out those SUV-drivin', cell phone-talkin', real estate-dealin' yuppie bastids!
things somewhat different here [2001-09-10 08:21:46] tofu
At my university there are 3 main categories of student

Aggies (agriculture student):
Wear denim pants, Nike caps, use the words "fag" and "giver" on a daily basis

Comfies:
Wear comfortable clothes (flannel pants, oversized T-shirts) , very easy going, will likely converse with anyone and everyone about anything

Fake Hippies:
Paid $70 to make their hair look dirty, wear expensive clothes designed to look cheap (weren't hippies supposed to have made their own clothes??? It can't really be that hard), talk endlessly about the last Ani Difranco concert but complain that she didn't do the "fuck you" song
Where, O Wear [2001-09-10 09:49:01] König Prüß, GfbAEV
Here!
Hoedown [2001-09-10 10:23:51] Lou Duchez
Yes, "Hoedown" comes from Aaron Copland's ballet, "Rodeo".
Goes to Show... [2001-09-10 10:52:33] König Prüß, GfbAEV
You can't keep a good ho' down
Townies [2001-09-10 11:59:26] Riff
Had me a little puzzled at first - where I'm from, a 'townie' is a university student that grew up in the same town the university's in. Like me.

"Where you from?"
"Here."
"Ah, a townie?"
"Yep."

Didn't really have anyone like you describe, back home. And once I left, it became irrelevant, so I no longer notice. We only had two subcultures in our school (sounds like a Rodney Dangerfield joke, doesn't it? "Our town was so small...") - Rednecks and Punks.

Rednecks: Denim jackets. Heavy metal or monster truck t-shirts. Mullets or rat-tails. Barely literate. A large percentage of them had the same last name - they seemed to all be cousins. I wouldn't've been surprised to find out they were also siblings, or uncles/aunts, at the same time. (I'm only being a little facetious - I'm from West Virginia, you see.)

Punks: Black leather jackets, with slogans or odd symbols in white paint. T-shirts of bands you've never heard of. Very miscellaneous hair. And they generally didn't _seem_ literate, but if you tried to test them you'd probably find out they knew more than you did.

The tension was pretty thick, but nothing much ever came of it. There were occasional rumbles, but afaik noone ever got seriously hurt. Makes me glad I grew up in a small town, really - there'd probably have been shootings otherwise, especially nowadays.

I was sort of an honorary punk - Most of my close friends were either punks, or close friends of punks. And the rednecks hated me for being a geek, so there was a sort of 'enemy of my enemy' dynamic at work.

Townies [2001-09-10 13:30:41] Ruth
I have friends that are townies its just I had to write down my feelings, I thought this website would be a good place to air them.
And [2001-09-10 13:55:46] Ruth
I have another little thing that happened to me i'd like to share.

One time on the bus to the skate park where people skate and chill out there was an occurance.

We were just getting on the bus in town, trying not to cause people too many reasons to stare at us, cause in my home town no-one has any manners.

As we went up to pay the bus man this girl (lets call her Jade) walked up next to me and my friends (Amys) sister (Donna) and said "Come on Melissa" and stood breathing through her mouth chewing her gum with her mouth opening and shutting... very rhythmic.

She tried pushing in front, but I mean, whats the god damn point!?

Anyway, when everyone had paid and got on, we were sat upstairs on the double decker old banger of a bus. We were on the back seat and they were sooooooooo not pleased. It was FUNNY. But we didn't laugh, I think it was out of fear as they had many people of a similar fashion on the bus, but we were the only 'freaks'.

Later on in the silent journey they were reading their issues of sugar magazine and gnawing away on their disgusting white gum.
As usual for scalls, they were 'smoking' cigarettes, if you can call it that. (Its more like holding it in a poser type way and flicking it now and again.)

Then Jade asks "Do you want tows (twos)?" We were all nearly killing ourselves holding in our laughter. What is it with townies and their accents? Anyway...

I want you to get this image in your head, Melissa (actual name) had short blonde hair and was sat to the left of me on the seat in front reading her copy of the magazine and her friend Jade (not actual name) was looking on her mobile (cell) phone reading messages and airing her views loudly so the whole bus knew what her phone said.

Then they were discussing some skirts which they had both spotted in the magazine. Then Melissa says "I like those skirts" (turning page)

"Urg I hate those skirts!!" then pulls the stupidist face I have ever seen. By this stage Jade had thought of something to say in her air head brunette skull. "Those skirts are for FREAKS!"
Then "I take the piss me don't I!!" Followed by more laughter and some glances at us.

Then they both threw their heads back in complete hilarity. Neither of them realising that the joke wasn't even funny, seeing as though We all may prefer to wear flower surf skirts than beige/denim skin-tight skirts doesn't mean we'd say they were nice, or be offended by their not funny humour.

This is why I believe what I do.
I don't mind townies because they're the un-extreme ones... but when theres a scallie theres always something to be said.


Diet [2001-09-10 15:00:15] König Prüß, GfbAEV
P'raps much of this may be laid to a diet of bubble&squeek, and bangers, eh?
um [2001-09-10 15:20:21] staniel
What the hell was that? I'm sorry, I just woke up and I need things to be kind of linear until I've got rid of the tunnel vision and shakiness.

Lou, chaos and discord have their place, I think. Everything is considered discordant when it's new, people went from very strict rules that meant only perfect intervals could be used harmonically, to allowing 3rds, 6ths, 7ths. The tritone used to be literally illegal!
oh, okay. [2001-09-10 15:27:23] staniel
Did You Spill My Pint?
chaos and discord [2001-09-10 16:03:42] Lou Duchez
I agree they have their place. But in and of themselves, they don't constitute music.

A diminished chord, by itself, is pretty dissonant. But the great thing about diminished chords is that they can resolve to about eight different chords.
Music and funny British talk [2001-09-10 17:51:58] Sean
Ruth, I'm not quite sure what the hell you were talking about sometimes there. "I take the piss me don't I!!" -- what on earth does that mean? I know that "taking a piss" means putting someone on or trying to bug them, but you take the piss you don't you? i'm not sure how that ties into skirts or what it means at all.. i think i missed something important.

Lou, have you ever heard anything composed by Charles Ives?
Ivesless [2001-09-10 19:58:54] Lou Duchez
I'm familiar with the name Charles Ives -- I used to work in a music library and I pretty much memorized where all the Charles Ives recordings were -- but I never got around to listening.
Ives [2001-09-10 20:19:29] staniel
I haven't been able to get into the Ives pieces I've heard, but I recall liking something or other from Henry Cowell. Stravinsky had some very pretty progressions that were technically "dissonant".
hey. [2001-09-10 23:57:33] staniel
Somebody find me an English translation of Jean Ray's "Le Psautier de Mayence" and I'll be somewhat grateful.
AKA "The Mainz Psalter" [2001-09-11 00:42:29] Annna
Not online, as far as I can tell. If you can't find a copy of either of these books:
Ghouls in My Grave, Berkley, 1965
My Own Private Spectres, Midnight House, 1999
then you're sunk. Maybe you can get it on interlibrary loan.
I kind of knew who would answer that one. [2001-09-11 00:50:53] staniel
Thanks.
Rare Books [2001-09-11 01:34:56] König Prüß, GfbAEV
In Washington, there are more than a dozen rare book mongers. One shop has a section of this kind of noire book. Also is the Library of Congress, but they will place your book on a reading desk, and not allow the book to be lent. The LoC has 110 million books, they may have that which you seek.
LoC
Not Listed [2001-09-11 01:43:47] König Prüß, GfbAEV
That title is not listed a LoC. Perhaps it would be for the best if you didn't open that book.
HEY! [2001-09-11 01:53:09] staniel
Thanks for reminding me! Speaking of hazardous writings, I bookmarked the online version of The King In Yellow and forgot about it entirely.
Oh, and [2001-09-11 10:51:40] Ruth
P.S The piss taking fitted into it because they said "Those skirts are for FREAKS!" Freaks of course meaning us. Get it now?
Mainz Psalter [2001-09-11 11:33:07] Pop
Amen, staniel.

Three various versions of the Mainz Psalter on abebooks.com

My most favoritest booksearch site:
http://www.trussel.com/f_books1.htm#Usedbooks
Deleted some asininery [2001-09-11 11:51:07] Sean
and of course you're welcome here ruth, stick around.
and now, a Psalm. [2001-09-11 12:09:26] staniel
It is sort of a hobby, or rather, odious idiosyncracy of mine to draw halfbaked conclusions. Submitted for your approval:

Someone recommended to me the "Psalmbook of Mendes", an error I managed to correct by just searching for Jean Ray and getting the actual title(s).

Before I did the author search, &c, and discovered it was a short story, I thought it was actually written in the Biblical format.

Then I saw Beneath The Planet Of The Apes, which features one of the radioactive telepath cultists holding a book titled "Mendes".
THREE SQUIRT DOG [2001-09-11 13:58:42] König Prüß, GfbAEV
I was trying to find Mendes, and I found this! It's got Oregon and The Ramones! Maybe you've heard of it, but it's new to me.
THREE SQUIRT DOG
Thanks Ben! [2001-09-11 22:14:43] staniel
Unfortunately, $40 for the trade paperback of Ghouls in My Grave, or $50+ for the hardcover My Own Private Spectres is a bit steep. Time to scour the used bookstores. Three Squirt Dog looks like it might be interesting, too!
dammit [2001-09-11 22:32:54] König Prüß, GfbAEV
"collectors: books get expensive! I can almost read enough French to get the sense of it
Jee-ZUS. [2001-09-11 23:04:29] Raijin Z
There are many species of white trash in my area. Some of the more common breeds are wiggers, the aforementioned preppies, and outright crackers. Solution: These fools run from a properly delivered threat of death and/or bodily harm.

GOOD: "You're fucking DEAD!", whilst brandishing a loaded 9mm, as I am known to do.

BAD: "Fuck you!" while walking away.
double ugh [2001-09-12 18:37:24] asinine avenger
you should post a warning that negative comments will be deleted. not that I will see it since I won't be coming back for more crap about how cool some dipshit is compared to me and the rest of the MUNDANES.
The Trendie Article [2001-09-18 10:57:06] System Of A Dan
I think I love you...

I live in a shitty little coastal town in Cornwall, (that's in England, yanks), and there's a 95% majority of townies. All driving round in Ford fucking Escorts. Damn them all to hell...

Anyway, just nice to know someone else has to deal with the shit.
And *are* your panties black? ;)
Gah [2001-09-18 14:22:47] Wady
errrrrrr........ asinine avenger, are you trying to imply that thingsihate shouldn't be negative? I mean it take a special mind to explaine what they hate in a posative way

I also have a story [2001-09-18 14:45:54] Wady
of abuse suffered due largly, to being a scrawney black-swathed freak. At the hands of a boy who must have been all of 8.
I was in australia, on acount of being a lazy bastard taking a year out between finishing school and getting on with university. Sitting on a fairly obscure beach on the Gold coast, about, oh 5 miles south of Surfers Paradise. it was a fairly overcast day in July, and I'd found a finger of rocks sticking out from the beach to sit on and gaze broodingly out to sea. Partly for the look of the thing, mostly coz I had nothing much to do and can watch waves for hours.
At this point, I glance across the sand to my right and see a small child raceing his still-smaller sister to the rock pools. I smile breifly. Thats sweet. and return to contomlating the ocean. Until he starts throwing rocks at me, swearing like a trooper, and finaly brandishs a spanner at me while his mother looks on benignly from the back ground.
Get out you freak!
Charmed, I leave, deciding that the only way to shut him op would be to lay into him, I'd never convince a jury that he started it, and I don't have time (my flight home (Britain) was in mid August)

I seem to have been repeting my self. appologies.
System of a dan [2001-10-07 10:27:31] Ruth
Quite often my pants are black.
I FUKIN HATE TOWNIES [2001-11-02 04:30:29] Lynnette
unfortunately i go to a skool which is plagued by these twats/rats called townies.. I have my lip peirced and i wear eyeliner.. and acording to them im a goth..I am not a goth.. i listen to punk music.. EVERY SINGLE FUKIN TOWNIE CAN FUCK OFF AND DIE!!!!! oh and biggup to the site its coooooollllllll!!! Ps go to my site.. www.envy.nu/zoeandnette/bitch.html
o yes [2001-11-08 12:04:45] Kat
i love this site, its so funny... i like the questions bit, its so true. like when u walk down the street and hear "baggy pants, baggy pants.." i just feel like saying "woah where did those come from, i didnt have those on this morning" lol... the best is "are you gonna use your pants as a tent when you go camping" duh?!?!? just because i have black hair does not make me a goth, i wear black clothes occasioanally coz i hate gettin things dirty, and im a messy person lol... i wear what i want, and dont let other people tell me how to dress. i hate to say it but some "moshers" are just as judgemental as the people that they call, "you have not got pants that have a leg wider than ur waist, die" lol, but anyhoo, thats human nature and im warbling, great site...
hmm yeh u have the right idea!!!!! [2001-11-10 11:02:28] punkgothgrungerfreakgirl
we call them pikeys. 2day a group of them nicked my crazy spiky hat!! it cost 18 bluddy quid! they got reely angry cuz we wer takin the p!ss outta them hahaha 'eminem, wicked man! addidas rocks man!' hahahahahaha stoooopid pikeys. i
TOWNIE LOVER [2001-11-13 09:11:17] Tristan caree
Hey im tristan carree and i love townies especially Astra and Danielle they're the best eva i cant say how much i h8 this site its so gay sorry but its gotta b sed TOWNIES RULE so dont get it wrong or ill fukin kill ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
finally, some one who hates townies! [2001-11-14 09:34:46] tania
wow!this is the best website i have ever gone on. EVER. i just hate townies.

these are the things i dont get

1- what is this big thing about rockports???
i mean they look crap and paying up all that money for them is mental!
2- why do you have the urge to yell 'mosher' at me? i already no i am. whats the friggin point?
3-why do townies HAVE to look identical to each other? it looks like their mums dress them again, like they did when you were, what... um... ONE AND TWO?
4- drop the accents.please.
there are many more thing i dont get though.

these are some of the things i have yelled at me.

urghhhh... mosher!
dont give me the mosher disease
korn are shit
linkin park cant sing
why do you wear sleeping bags on your legs?
why dont you attatch your chains to your dog collar, bitch?
dis mosher (in that townie acent voice)
do you dress all in black
heaven is a half pipe (whats that all about?)
do you go in a mosh pit?
are you a goth?
do all spifs dress like that?(arrhhhh for christs sake all i wana do is do well in my life!)
do you eat people?
are you friendly or are no moshers friendly?
crawling is wicked!
why do you hate townies?
whats a mosh pit?
do you wear white face paint? (my face is naturally whiter than normal coloured skin.really.)
do you like pop music?
nsync are better than blink 182
blink182's all the small things is crap/ well good. (depends who your talking to)
slipknot shit,piss, puke on each other dont they.andthey eat dead birds.
.a.f. are cheap skates.


plus many more.

theres people at school wholl tell me they like mosh music but are afraid of townies.
i just hate it when people do that.
ok so i gotta go, my human and kidney pies going cold.hmmm...

WOAH!! [2001-11-18 07:16:18] Ruth
People who agree replied!! woohoo!!
I have some townie jokes... here goes...

What do you call a townie is a box?
INNIT!!
What do you call a townie in a filing cabinet?
SORTED!!
What do you call a female thirteen year old townie?
Pregnant
What do a tortoise and a female townie have in common?
When they're on their back they're fucked
What do you call a townie with a brain cell?
Gifted

If any of you would like to know more about townies, or help in the destruction of them, go to http://www.towniehaters.com (you might want to ignore the reference to d-12)
i see ur point [2001-11-27 04:13:55] Addz
hay i hate the scallies and im gonna kill them all for wot they dun they jumped my mate few days ago hes in a coma now wot i cant belive is that they cut him wid a split can the rebelion against townies starts 2002 this page is kewl ruth e-mail me back if ya wana chat more
i hate the townie scum [2001-12-19 02:31:47] s?O?mxN
Townies suck especially townies from Hailsham they are gay and all suck each others dicks
townies r shit at football [2001-12-19 02:34:50] jvfncjbvg
hailsham townies r fuckin crap at football and they r cunts
.... [2001-12-25 09:57:12] tania
i love your townie jokes, brilliant!
youe not the only person here who has a strange urge everynow and then to slit townies throats and let them bleed to death.
i feel like you do. i live in this area (in england) where its peaceful through the day, and and moshers just hang around, but at night townies all emerge and hang about the street corners.
as you know its xmas and for xmas i got:
lost prophets hoodie
rammstein hoodie
extremely large jeans (i mean BIIIG)
chunky boots with buckles over them
stripy socks+tights
coal chamber long sleeved top
etc

and of course i get stared at.
my cousins are townies and their um,...posse are too, and of course they look down on me.
the main reason i dont like townies is because my mate was walking his mate and his girlfriend home(they wer pissed) and townies beat them up pretty badly. he got knocked out, and the following day half his face was swollen, had two black eyes and his nose was bloody.plus he had a cracking headache for two weeks.
im actually doing ok at my school cos theres about 20 other moshers, but 70%of everyone else is a townie, and theyre in the bottom sets.
i feel sorry for my mates cus theres only 2 other moshers at her school
anywho, i love this site, so keep it going

ps towniehaters.com has shut down cus they cant be arsed with it any more.
Townies [2001-12-30 12:52:11] Skorpius
Me and one of my friends (who is somewhat nieave) were getting some stuff before christmas. I was wearing baggy jeans, a large chain hung at my side (fuck knows why- I just like them) and a long-sleeved Nirvana shirt. I'd had troubles with townies before, but my friend obviously hadn't. On the opposite side of the street was a group of townies (why are they all dressed in white- is this some sub-culture of the klu-clux clan?) and they were staring at us. I tried to inore them and increased my pace, but sure enough:- "Eh..eh..G..GrungieeeeeeeS!!!" Shit, I think and ignored them and walked on. Then I hear my friend behind me:- "TOWNIEEEEEEEES!!". Bollocks. I turn round and there's my friend (who shall remain nameless) standing there and pointing at them. So how did we survive? Well, we had two strokes of luck: 1. Some friends of ours had just come out of the opposite shop and had immediately recognised our situation, 2. I'm quite big and can put on a scary face (although I hate fighting and am not a violent person by nature) and, 3. Only two of them came over. The two townies started on my friend, pushing him and asking him the usual dum questions, they hadn't seen me or my two friends who had come out of the shop (all three of us were bigger than the townies, but my other friend (bloody hell this is confusing) was not) The three of us surrounded the townies arms folded "bouncer" style. It was hilarious, the victims of townies had never had such a victory. They looked at us and said (wait for it) "Why bover wiv dis lot when we awvready know we frash 'em", let out a nervous laugh and walked off.
[2001-12-31 07:07:13] djdean
i live in cov and i reckon that is 1 of the truest things i have seen.Townies should f**k animals so that they dont reproduce and die out.....
how to scare townies [2001-12-31 09:42:19] James
the simplest and funniest way to scare townies s**tless is
1)buy a realistic looking bb gun. uzis are best
2)cut off the red end bit
3)hide it in a pocket and go looking for townies when they go "you startin on me" reply with "yeah i am"
4)insult them a bit then when the get close pull out your uzi and point it at them.
5)laugh as townie runs.
i am not responsible for any legal action this advice results in
HATE MAIL [2001-12-31 10:13:05] Bielzibub
why not hate mail all the people who say that they are townies or who think townies are cool????!!

ps i do not accept any responsibility for any legal bullsh*t or other nasty cr*p that may come your way because of it!
To: Ruth [2002-01-06 02:42:21] Lauren
Your thing about Pikeys/Townies/Trendies is the best thing I have ever read in my life!!Me and all my friends are into the rock/greebo/grunger/skater type music and clothes and we find it difficult to walk ANYWHERE without having abuse shouted at us. And more than one occasion its gotten pretty nasty and a few of my friends have ended up with bloody noses (through no fault of their own) which is why I HATE PIKEYS!! Lauren xXx
hehe [2002-01-07 11:16:42] Ruth
The most recent abuse given to me was two things:
your trousers are falling down (I liked this one, it was far more intelligent than the usual townie banter)
oh my goth (this was shouted at me by many young townies who looked to be from poor backgrounds, so it is inevitable they will be forever townies and pack my shopping bags in years to come)

I don't hate ALL townies, or people different to me, but it's just that they have to question everything I do and insult me for no reason (other than my taste in clothing/music, which is no reason)

I am lucky enough to never have gotten beaten up by a townie, but i've seen it happen to my friends as a result of my loud mouth.
I tend to think of it like this: If everyone accepted the way I dress I doubt i'd enjoy dressing how I do, life would be easy... but do I want life easy?

My Christmas Presents were as follows:
Harry Potter sleeping bags to take with me to leeds festival
New Rock Big black boots with buckles and metal toe caps
Tights and long socks
c.d walkman for the listening of music
Marilyn Manson, Cradle of filth, Black Sabbath and Nine inch nails albums and other merchandise (posters, hoodies, badges and patches for my bag)
A big black diary
Red and black corset with inverted pentagram embroidery
Black Corduroy trousers
black crushed velvet skirt

That is all, apart from selection boxes, smellies...ect.

I hope every townie hater has a wonderful 2002!
dAmN i spent all day looking for a site as good as this [2002-01-15 18:30:22] STUART
YOU HAVE PORTRAYED THE SCALLY TO A T!
SCALLYS SUCK ASS
AND I HAVE WITNESSED ALL OF THIS ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS!!
I GET ABUSE FROM THESE WANKERS
oops NOT ABUSE CHILDISH IMMATURITY
BIG UP ON THE SITE
So much hate... [2002-01-19 09:57:08] Wady
... and such poor spelling. So I'm going to talk about somthing else. I like slikeys. Slinky prings are the best things in the world ever. I love them so much. [smiles vaguely].

Americans [2002-01-19 14:32:26] Adam
Yankee bastards. You inbred, ignorant, arrogant, gun toting, power hungry, sister fucking, burger eating, species destroying, ethnic cleansing, money grabbing, greedy, self righteous, ammoral, prejudging, exploitative, opprresive, enviroment destroying, unhealthy race of fuckwits.

Thankyou, my name is adam lynn
dammit i need a subject O_o [2002-02-14 12:05:22] ~*(amanda)*~
K, i just wanna say ur site kicks a$$ but im not sayin i h8 steeks (townies) cuz i dont. My best friends and most of my friends are townies and i dont see wot the big deal is. My best friend wears tracksuits and yea u class her as a steek but theres no point being stereotypical 2wards her cuz she dont listen 2 bsb and n'suck , she listens 2 manson and ozzy etc... oh and the hooch lemon thing, i took alot of offence cuz i drink that O_o Everyone likes their own drinks and same goes 4 clothes... The whole point i am tryin 2 make is that just cuz some of them have said crap 2 u and maybe wanted 2 fight u doesnt mean they r all like that cuz they arent. Ive known gothz 2 cum up 2 me in the street and go what the fuck u lookin at and i just go i aint lookin at nuthin, cuz there is no point fightin O_o

k, point made... very badly :(
I see your point [2002-02-14 12:43:25] Ruth
I always think that this message has been read enough times and that no-one will find it but most everytime I return there is more posts, and it over joys me just ever so much!

I found that article on towniehaters.com, I felt it encompassed nearly all of my anger, so I added my own extras and submited it here.

I am no longer angry, because I have realised that I can deal with the hassle I recieve from them. I get abuse a lot more at school than I used to, but it's always from people at least two years below me, so it doesn't bother me much. It brings around a lot of interest from my peers who never realised what I was like.

People are stupid, A person is smart.

Anyhow: It's becoming very fashionable to like slipknot now, gone are the days when the supposed 'normal people' liked limp bizkit and to some extent, papa roach, linkin park and ooh...what's that other band...well, I suppose a lot of people like greenday.
Normal people are creeping into the gigs I go to wearing hooded tops and baggy trousers. Sporting hooded jumpers with bands like KoRN, Slipknot and Papa Roach labels dribbled over them. It's as bad as wearing clothes just for the labels. Nu-metallers, I think people call them.

They are what I presently hate. I hate people who show hate towards me and I hate people too scared to be who they are. Fake people who don't speak their minds, Although I doubt they have a mind to speak with all the drivel they listen to.

That's my lot.



Newspapers agree.... [2002-02-16 05:44:50] Sarah
The other day my friend saw the funniest thing in a paper, there was an article with the heading CLONES LIVE SHORTER LIVES then a picture of a townie beside it...LOL we then photocopied it and stuck it round our school and have about a million people after 'those gays who put up that article' (what do they have against gay people anyway?) but their reaction was sooo funny we couldn't resist. Anyway it serves them right for trying to make our lives hell, one of them threatened to beat us up with his bike seat the other day... lol.
i agree totaly [2002-02-22 04:36:18] Mark
im from near liverpool and a mosher, and in my town moshers are the minority. for example in my year there is 300 people, yet only 4 moshers!
lucky im also near manchester which is liek the mosher capital of england. anyway townies are scared, they shout abuse and i just turn around and leg it at them, they scream asking me not to hurt em!
as its 2002 we shud make this a great year for moshers and turn the tables on the rockport waering, chain smoking, cider loving, tracky wearing poor excuses for humans and start to teach them what its like to be abused!
Focking scallies ( in our language fucking tossers) [2002-02-23 11:09:39] Bren
OMG this is fucking funny, who ever posted this is a genius and if you want come down to warrington and come scally bashing with us.
Pets [2002-02-26 03:32:44] stumble.
I love my pets. I have not yet written poetry about them but I have lots of pets now and have always had lots of pets all the way through my life. I have had 8 cats, 2 mice, 20 fish,2 guinea pigs, 5 rabbits, 5 hamsters, 5 rats and a horse.
Ruth- that it sooo true [2002-02-28 14:07:47] Ella
can't beleive how things are the same all over england(i live in southamton)but unlike you, most of my friends are townies i guess,but their nice and have more of n open mind.all the moshers in my school are not in my form or not in any of my classes,I'd love to dress up how I want to(grungy)but I can't a few times I went out in town with my hoodie,baggy jeans,black make up but then when I got back to school I found out that some kids in my year saw me and started tellin every1 that I'm gothic."are you a goth?", "no I'm not","oh well,a grunger then,just as bad" FUCK! can't they just leave me alone,I can't even go out in town wearing what I want coz I don't want ne1 from my school to see me,coz I don't ant to get picked on.I wouldn't mind if I was in a big group,but I'm not.I dread non uniform day,when every1 looks forward to it,I really wanna wear my normal clothes but they will just pick on me,and if I wear somthing normal-I just don't feel like myself,and all the moshers look down on me,so I end up wearing flayred jeans(not too flayerd)and a black top that says oZZy on it,I figured most of the townies don't know who he is so no1 can really say nething.
what you posted really made me laugh,I can't beleive how small mided those ppl are...so they have been to majorka once and think they have
seen the world.hmmmm...
I've got a townie joke,you probably heard it though- WHY DID A TOWNIE CROSS THE ROAD? COZ HIS MATE DID!
so- [2002-03-01 14:32:07] Ella
I guess you hate me.
but I do it for my own safety.
No [2002-03-06 10:09:01] Ruth
I don't hate anyone unless they hate me. Two wrongs often make a right, for me anyway.
I can relate to the following. [2002-03-06 16:41:54] JimmySinner
You sacrifice virgins don't you? (no, I don't)
You drink blood all night don't you? (again, no)
Do you get a buzz from dressing like that? (yes, I fit all my clothes with wires and battery packs, you see)
Are you gay? (no)
Are you a hippy? A hippy from a chippy? (yes, I have been asked this exact question, as I work in a chippy)
Do you worship Satan? (no, I don't)
You take drugs don't you? (only soft drugs, and not often)
Are you into witchcraft and that? (avtually, 'here! do you do witch kind of stuff like?')
Do you fly a broomstick? (no, I don't)
Are you a weirdo? ('I don't know, are you an arsehole?' then he punched me)
Are any of your clothes white? (yes, they are, I just wasn't wearing anything white at the time)
Are you like that boy on home and away? (I don't know who that is, cos I don't watch that program)
Are you a vampire? (Outdoors, on a sunny day at noon)
Why are your eyes red? (They're contacts!!) (they asked me why my eyes were green, and it wasn't contacts, I have green eyes, so did one of the townies)
Don't you like Adidas? What do you wear then?! (I am naked? Tilt your neck forward,dumbass!)
Are you a dog or something? ('I don't know, are you an arsehole?' is starting to become a popular phrase of mine)
Are you one of them gothics? (no)
Can you raise the dead? (no)
Can you read my palm? ('No, but I could kick you in the face')
Are you a human being? ('Yes, are you?)
Can I join your witch gang? ('Only if I can be a prick like you')
Can I be black too? (I'm not black, I'm hispanic)
You're a stupid fockin freak. You worship the devil. You look stupid. I'd kill myself if I was like you. Can I borrow a pencil? ('Only if I can insert it into your eye')
Do you hug trees? ('Does the pope shit in the woods' his reply: 'eh? what are you going on about, you fuckin' freak?')
What do you do when it's not a full moon? ('what do you do when you run out of White Lightning? Fuck ofgf home? well, I can't see any cider, so fuck off home, will you?')

Can you tell that I'm a cheky bastard?
[2002-03-07 10:07:39] Claire
Hi, I so totally agree! townies suck and yeah- y the hell do they think Ronan is good looking? I wear chain, hoodies, baggy pants the works! There is nothin wrong with moshers, they look far better than townies! Me n my mate r the only moshers in my year an get a lot a stick for it! I hate britney etc! linkin park, sum41, blink 182 etc is good music! i think ppl failing all their subjects is pathetic - they'll be sorry when we have good jobs n they're picking up trash on the streets! I also hate smoking especially 9 year olds. how sad can u get?
[2002-03-08 13:00:52] Ruth
It's not that I hate townies, I was really angry when that was posted, and have since had a relapse of hatred towards people who know no better.
Townies are who they are because of peer pressure and so I cannot blame them, for their job is following the status quo, and what a great job that must be! The only thing I am against is their constant questioning.
I was born and raised as a 'normal' person, my parents are ex-hippies and my dad used to be a mod for a while. They didn't bring me up particularly to have any religion, I suspect my parents are atheists, but they had me christened into the church of england because they thought it for the best.
They raised me to enjoy being different, to embrace it even, and I went through a phase 5 years ago of wanting to be a hippy. Whilst at school I never quite fitted in, I always had plenty of friends, but the majority thought me stupid because I was an extrovert.
So I changed myself, and eventually became so introverted and cut off that I never had the chances I would've liked. So now I have taken charge, and 5 years later i'm a changed person.
Look at this: I'm off the subject and telling my life story.
Even if they're trying to be friendly like some people at my school who ask me where I buy my clothes, because that is all that's on their brains day in day out.
What people are wearing.
I have also realised it's not about what they wear, it's about how they act. Some people just can't afford to find shops that sell decent clothing at decent prices and instead pay either too much or too little for their clothes.
There's no wonder they have to sink so low as the ask me. Recently I haven't just recieved abuse from townies, but from pseudo punks and people who have 'stick in the ass' walks. So it really is peoples brains that make them who they are, and in a townies case that is mainly snobby, up themselves and trend followers.
I'll admit, I dislike being placed in any class, be it mosher, grunge, goth, punk, retro/eco-metaller or heavy metal fan, because I try to be individual, I get clothes made by my friends mother whos job is making wedding dresses, but I do follow supposed guidelines of how I want to look. There are clothes that, even to me, are off limits.
Who am I to judge how people express themselves. Wouldn't it be easier if everyone just wore signs around their neck saying what others think of them, and what they think of themselves. Afterall, wearing band merchandise is just like wearing name brands. It puts you into a group, even if you don't fit into that group at all.
mmm [2002-03-08 14:37:21] jon
scallies are normally called townies and recently cackers, after the french 'cac' meaning poo. i mean im all 4 people being they're own person but townies just arnt they just follow whats "cool". also if ure a skater or goth u wear baggy jeans or woteva, and other goths dont laugh at u if ure clothes r cheaper than some of the Ł50 stuff u can buy. whereas being a townie is ded expensive and if u only have 2 stripes instead of the all important 3 theyll laff at u, i gave up trying to fit in, it sux too much.
Finally, a realisation [2002-03-13 14:39:57] Sam of Lakeyland
I too live in England, land not so fair.
Most visitors believe England to be a beautiful country with hearty locals, however as Ruth describes they are sadly mistaken.

Where I live, close to Central London, well about 7 miles away, we too know these people sometimes as townies but more often than not as "pikeys". This word originally referred to gypsies (which most modern pikeys still are) but now means most people in my area.

Many of these pikeys are relatively safe and will only ask you to buy them fags when you walk past, if you refuse they may shout "prick" but that's about as far as it will go. Many big towns near to where I live were often regarded as quite rough, but I and my friends never seem to encounter anything too bad, and sadly the particular village in which I live which wasonce considered to be "a nice area" has become home to the worst of these pikeys. They come from large blocks of flats and council estates and obviously gypsy camps and stand at bus stops or the local kebab shop. They will usually walk the 100m journey from a bus stop to the kebab shop and back to the bus stop again about 30 times during any night. Even a sunday night when its pouring with rain and they have no shelter. This is their life.

What makes this crowd particularly bad is that if they see you they will come after you and when in close proximity will shout "come ere!" Seriously who is going to be stupid enough to come there. Then they will follow you to your house and try to get in the front door. which never works. Relentless buggers they are.

Favourite passtimes seem to be:
1.Drinking cider, notably "white lightning" which is quite obviously cat's piss mixed with alcohol. they only drink this as it is extremely cheap and becsue they have acquired a taste for it after starting their alcohol abuse at 6 years old.
2.Smoking cannabis on a regular basis to "get them going".
3.Playing with their stolen phones.
4.Getting on buses without paying and then throwing bottles at my friends.
5.Destroying anything.
6.Trying desperately to get food from take-away restaurants in vain.
7.Hanging around in parks.
8.Breaking in to cars and then driving them to the nearest parks to burn them out.
9.Stealing worthless things.
10.Shouting randomly
11.Shouting insults at passers by, usually calling them gay whihc no longer has the same meaning but could just be any random insult.
12.Obviously, fighting. With metal poles, chains, wheels, my spades, knives, other sharp objects.

All pikeys believe that "decks" (Dj turntables) are an instrument, no matter how many times I tell them that they aren't. They also believe that the only way in life is to smoke crack, listen to drum 'n' bass "music", and to try to "MC" along to the "So Solid Crew"

Police cannot control them and my personal view is that these so-called people deserve to die, the only reaosn I'm pleased that they might not die at 17 is that I will have the satisfaction of scraping their blood off of the fender of my brand new jaguar in about 10 years time.

One final point-many of these children go to my school, I have read their barely legible broke English and they truly are the morons of the world.

Ok that wasn't the final point I forgot all anecdotes.
1.My friend Sam Lake was walking through a church yard (of all places)
when he encountered two pikeys. One asked if he had any money or a phone to which Sam replied no. Then this boy asked Sam to jump up and down to see if he was lying, luckily Sams money was in a tight wallet pocket so made no noise. All this while the other boy had been silent and had just looked at him with menacing eyes, he then came forward, hot Sam in the face and said "you were lucky, but I'll get ya next time"
2.My friend Robin was once walking to an off licence to buy some beer when he saw 15 or so pikeys in a church yard (I never understood either, different church though.) The pikeys said to him "Oi!, mate got a fag?" to which Robin replied yes. They then said, "Gimme em then!" to whihc he replied no which disgruntled the pikeys who decided to come over and hurl abuse at Robin. Next I came round the corner with about 20 of my friends and the pikeys remarked "whoa", where'd all the boys come from?" They then became very friendly and asked us "do you smoke the crack" and we said no, he seemed annoyed and remarked "but you gotta smoke da crack or you ain't really livin"
We didn't really understand, after about ten minutes of them asking us why we didnt listen to jungle music they asked my taiwanese friend Hang if he was from Feria(a council estate notorious for its "hardness") and Hang told them he wasn't to which they said "are you sure you ain't from Feria?" Hang still said no, as he was actually from Bromley. Then they said "Do you write (graffiti a "tag")" and Hang told them he didn't. After a minute of two of deliberation they asked Hang if he had a cousin in Feria as they were sure they had seen him, then they realised that they weren't too bright and that all Chinese people looked the same to them. They left without a fight, probably because there were so many of us, but we still hate them.

I can't think of anything else, maybe some more later.

Thanks Ruth for showing people how bad it is in Britain. As for asinine avenger, you are clearly a townie. I just wish they would all realise that they are morons.

"Josie and the Pussycats" is a great film, I may be biased as I actually worship Tara Reid.
Nu-metallers [2002-03-14 09:44:59] Ruth
It's the biggest diss you can have given to you to see people acting like a scallie/pikey yet wearing supposed alternative clothes. (baggy jeans, a small cheap dog lead chain and a black hoodie)
The worst abuse I have is at school, and only from scallies who do not know me (younger and older). Today it was 'come as you please' so I did.
COUSINS! [2002-03-25 13:07:16] Mero
Im a bit of a swat ( apparently ) but theres not many days when you wont find me out skating with my hair spiked up and sprayed white. There are some people who wear cacker clothes who are alright and can sometimes be pretty intelligent and the opposite to that lot. It the fuckers that go around with knives and their 40 cousins that really piss me off. The fact that i go to a grammar school and live next to two of the biggest cacker schools in the whole of poole is pretty worrying when i go to the shops and theres 12 of them smoking and attacking people up at my local shop. SAnother thing that pisses me off is when cackers try and be skaters (IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN!). This just means that you get about 20 cackers hanging at all the skateparks and trying to attack anybody who looks funny. Why do all the fucking gypsys dress in cacker clothes WHERE DO THEY GET THE MONEY!it mental. I reckon that cackers are starting to die out . im sure it wont happen but we can live in hope. Hey Ruth your sites brought amusement to most people in my school ;-) well done.

Matt
[2002-03-25 13:33:22] Alex
I think every thing that Matt expressed is exactly true, i live, go to school and hang about with the Sporty fockers and it pisses me off when i see The typical "Townie" wearing a GAP hoodie and bluue skin type ADIDAS Trouser and probably REEBOK CLASSIC TRAINERS As we both know about matt! I say we kick these dicks into place! seeya freedom fighters! alex
hmm [2002-03-29 06:13:48] staniel
Everyone who would like Sean to install a message board and dedicate it to UK moshers and their dislike of townies should email him. No worries, it's just that there are over 80 comments on this article now and it's becoming unwieldy.
Hhuehuehehehuehehe [2002-03-29 16:31:52] Ruth
Methinks I touched a nerve.
*Something* [2002-04-02 18:26:29] Lela
Before I say anything -

I am not a townie( I dont share any features of being a townie) ,
I am not a trendy ( May have been true when my parents bought me designer clothes on my birthday so many years ago *annoyed*),
I am not a mosher (I havent been to mosh anywhere in my circumstance) I am not a goth (Even though its been said to me many times before)
I am...........something....

Coming from the suburbs of London, it seems that around 90% of people (mainly aged between 12 to 18) are townies, which is hardly surprising from the accounts of what others had said here.

When I joined a college nearly 2 years ago I realised how apart I was from most people there. I am regulary in hoodies eg S.O.A.D LB, soulfly and spineshank ( I wear them because I am a fan of these bands, not because it trendy thing to do as interpretated by other people), jeans (yes they are baggy because they are more comfortable), collars and chains, though I have seen girls who are townies take up this style, well they think its cool...

And its all these factors that bring this:
On a frequent basis I actually get things called to me that are so dumb and stupid eg
'Are you a devil worshipper?'...
'When do the human sacrifices take place'

...Considering Ruths own list of comments made I see townies are getting jealous/pissed off/wanting to riducule someone on the basis of who they are
In these instances I laugh it off, because now I do not take townies seriously)

I can expect to hear this more than twice a week.
Just because I dont follow their usual fashions of wearing gap pullovers, schott clothes and adidas trousers.
( I got to note here that
1) More and more teens are appear in exactly the same clothes, maybe a different colour, but *always* the same brand name
2) Its an apparent disadavantage to not be into s club 7, so solid crew, Britney/Christina/Kylie, any form of commercial garage/trance/house music, and perhaps every pop song from the weekly top 40.......)

From the time of year 7 ( 11 to 12 year olds) to year 11 (15 to 16 year olds, they often have to be trend followers to fit in and be *accepted* with the crowd. That is understandable enough. From then on they may be different, gain their own style or interests.
I became interested in more alternative music than the mainstream pop stuff you get on radio/tv right back in year 7-8. It was mainly indie music such as Ash, Oasis and The Verve. Later on there they a group of girls who called themselves goths and dressed up the stereotypical way that the media portrays goths to look like. (Needless to say, they prefered music like Korn, Marilyn Manson, but at that age nobody was concerned with what goth meant)
That time I went on to favour metal bands, just a break from the dullness of mainstream stuff that everyone else prefered.
Concluding this, I say 'If you got through your school years without being labeled *see the beginning of what I put* , then congratulations to you.' No sarcasm intended either.

I would have liked having no name given to me, instead of being judged and insulted about the choice of clothing/music/general lifesytle that I have.

I could easily say 'Fuck townies' 'Die townie scum' , 'townies suck dick' and all the rest of it, but I dont because I suppose not all townies are the same. In any case what I say wouldnt make a whole lot of difference.

Now I'm gonna say ' I dont care anymore, because I dont want to care. If being different from a whole lot of sheep sets you apart in a field, so be that, and you live by it and accept it.'

I felt like hating townies, but now I ignore them:
Simply because they are not worth the effort to diss.
That whole Townies thang [2002-04-05 09:43:15] Pixie
Wow, I was just playing around on my computer (avoiding revision) when I came upon this site, and that article is really funny, but sadly, so true also. I also live in England and in the city I live, there are townies everywhere, but also a lot of what we call "Teeny grebs" - mainly year 9s or 10s who sit around in baggy jeans and korn hoodies, drinking cider and stumbling over to the Alternative Clothing Sale where they can find more t-shirts and hoodies of bands they have never heard of. It's quite strange yet entertaining to watch them all, particularly in the holidays.
Peronally I am not an anything, I have been called many things, but most people agree that you couldn't class me as anything from the way I dress, just because it's so random. Sometimes I wear hippyish clothes (on these sunny summer days hurrah for floaty clothes!), sometimes I wear gothic clothes, sometimes I wear totally bizarre things and get laughed at. For example, I have a recent passion for dungarees (no I'm actually not pregnant), and I have started raiding the wardrobes of my mum and my gran and slicing apart their old clothes to make things for myself. This is because I don't want to be the same as everyone else, and, at least where I'm living, it is becoming just as fashionable to be a greb as a townie and I dont want to be involved in any of it! It does mean that I get lots of abuse from people though, in some cases more than my goth friends, because at least they are part of a group whereas I am just a little old me being totally crazy on my own, but hey I'm not complaining!
As for music, I am quite strange again, because I like so many different things that I can always find something to argue about with people. This is a selection from my current winamp playlist: The Strokes, The Supremes, The Beatles, System of a Down (yay just went to see them =)), Dope, Shampoo (yes yes I know), Pearl Jam, Groove Armada, In Flames... ok so a list of what music I like is getting boring. I just wanted to sort of say (in a really roundabout and hungover way) that people don't have to fit into any labelled group, they can just be mad individulas! I hate it when grebs won't admit that 60's pop music DOES make you want to dance around and laugh!
Anyway, cheers for the entertainment of such a good article on this lonely Friday afternoon. Byebye
Too true [2002-04-06 13:25:59] Ruth
Stealing relatives clothes is so fun! I raid my dads old hippy stuff, like he has this tie... Well he had this tie.
The first alternative music I liked was David Bowie. Then I liked the Kinks. Then my friends all became hip hop fanatics, and as most people come to realise, hip hop and rock music are linked. So they're now into punk and ska, and i'm into anything that has psyco-acoustical guitars or God bashing lyrics.
I'm really into Anyone at the moment.
townies [2002-04-07 14:58:05] justanothersomebody
thins i hate...... ok lets see ...... townies yep im done
This is so cool!!!!!!!! [2002-04-10 11:38:28] Warren Burke & Richard Browning
Hi we hate scallys so this is the perfect website for us we wear hoodies and baggy pants and we are asked mostly all of these questions including"Do u slit your Wrists?" We just say "yeah so fuck off!"i really hate it when u walk past an estate and theres a scally trying to skate with a ciggerate in his mouth showing off to girls it pisses me off so much i call them and start to run like fuck!.just now i went outside with richard to skate but some scallys said let me have a go but before i could decline they took it off me and tried to skate i dont know what is funnier the fat one trying to skate or the scallys falling off it was so funny i nearly pissed my pants ne way just kill as many scallys as you can those sons-of-bitches dont deserve to live.
i detest scallies so much more than anyone. [2002-04-11 07:20:35] dave angel
i fuckin hate them, they are inbred, they will soon over run the world since most of the girls have 8 kids by the time they 20, us 'freaks' have to put our foot down and change the law, either
a) have all scallies children neutered at birth to prevent futher contamination of the gene pool.
or
b) send them to afghanistan, osama biun laden will soon turn himself in, if he has no parks/street corners/bus stops to hide since all the scally shits will be there drinkin white lightning.
Everyone [2002-04-11 13:46:17] Ruth
Everyone deserves to live. Scallies, inevitably, get what they deserve.
hull moshers are in a state of war [2002-04-14 16:30:51] david
every saturday for 3 years now (started by me for some friends back at school.) a group of moshers has met up in town. the current place which is some what a sanctuary for us (queens gardens hull) is now being invaided more and more aggressivly by townies, bearing lock-knifes and bringing in many gangs. it came to a head yesterday with 2 victories, but to the expence of one of our eyes which left the field blackened. I am asking you know for any tricks you have coem across or any ideas you wish to put forward whoever reads this to help us put an end to the invasions. there is about 60-75 of us, mostly young moshers (i am 16 for the record) also i am in a position of authority with alot of them being one of the elders there.

after 2 hospitalisations i am putting my foot down and asking that they all join me in action to defend them selfs and ideas from elsewhere will be greatly appreciated, please e-mail me anything you make have to help. pussnugget@hotmail.com

thankyou
hasta la victoria viempra

- dave -
Genius [2002-04-17 12:10:42] Lukas
I was actually looking for a picture of some scallies (doing a journalism project in Warrington) and it gave me a link to your page. Nice one! The questions they ask are beyond belief sometimes. There's no question I find more offensive than "Do you like Limp Bizkit?", but at least Warrington scallies call me mosher, which is accurate and not an insult, rather than 'greebo' which i get in Mansfield.
My last conflict [2002-04-21 14:21:47] Ruth
My last scary scallie moment was last night.
I know a boy called Sam, He has a sister. Someone hit his sister, and it was a boy. He thought this unfair and so went to the boy to even the score. The boy knows a gang who carries knives and have members from New York and London. They came looking for him and they started on his friend who looks a bit like him. To top it all off, I have a friend who's boyfriend is in the gang. She wasn't there, otherwise we could've avoided conflict.
The moral is beware of boys who hit girls. They're not always gay.
You WOT??????!!! [2002-04-27 08:13:10] King Scouser
Hey what the fuck you doin making fun of me and me m8's . I'll have ya ....yeah thats rite me and m8's and me dad and there dads will come round and do ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You WOT??????!!! cont.... [2002-04-27 08:15:43] King Scouser
can i borrow a pencil
gr8 site [2002-04-27 14:14:24] james ahier
>hi
>i like your web site
>please add more stuff
>i think most of it is true
>every one in my school goes round asking if u r a townie punkor goth
its pritty annoying cause u get the same queston every day and its pissing me off.

please reply james ahier
gr8 site [2002-04-27 14:14:25] james ahier
>hi
>i like your web site
>please add more stuff
>i think most of it is true
>every one in my school goes round asking if u r a townie punkor goth
its pritty annoying cause u get the same queston every day and its pissing me off.

please reply james ahier
I hate townies, trendies, preps and scallies [2002-05-05 05:12:53] Phil Mosher from Cumbria
Townies are twats they all ask you if you worship satan and what r u goin to say. Townies are dick heads and y would they want to check your under wear and see if its black how homosexual!!! And y on gods earth would they think everyone who dresses in black is a witch or warlock. So over all they r all stupid fuckin pricks. And the website rules its so cool
Nice very nice [2002-05-09 13:22:08] Lois Hall
After reading your views and opinions, I felt compelled to write a comment to express that I indeed share your views and am living in exactly the same situation. I too am a skater/goth, and have made the same analogy concerning townies. I live in a town called Melton Mowbray, and the townies here are as common as rats in the 19th century. I am 15 year old girl, and the school in which I attend is litter with the filthy vermin that are townies. All they ever say is 'thats well bangin'!' and then they shout across to a individual that doesn't own a mobile phone "What you haven't got a mobile, well then what do you do when you lose the keys to your Nova, and have to ring your mum for help? Cus your can't use the phone boxes cus we've smasked them all up!" As you obviously have noted townies are ignorant pieces of shit that drink cider and think that the priority on the top of their list is where they are goning to get their next cigarrette from! There morals, mentallities and logistics are to put it blunted - absolutly stupid. For example, as you mentioned skipping everyday, and failing exams ( This of course they are proud of despite the fact that they do not seem to realise this would result in them having shit low paid jobs for the rest of their lives) I mean I'm not a 'swot' or anything, but i do complete work etc. but I also party as much as the next person, withthe exception of holding it in a house rather then a park, and also having a strict ban on the carrying or drinking of cider!
But anyway to the point (sorry about the long rant! But as you can relate, townies just anger me with their idiotic realisms and lifestyle) I just wanted tyo congradulate you on your site, as you have made my day, hearing at last someone genuinly not a townie, expressing the hileriousness about their whole existance. The funniest thing is I now hear townies making fun of townies, and its like WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE A TOWNIE!!! Thanks anyway.
O So True! [2002-05-10 09:01:30] Rick Edmondson
I Have A Red Mohawk, And Recently I Have Been Jumped At My Local Bus Station Due To The Fact Most Scallies/townies are 9 they climbed on my back whilst i was walking i got on my bus and got my *reduced student fare* And the Bus Driver had the cheek to ask whether the scallies belonged to me. anyway enoughof the anecdotes well said Ruth!
Thank God [2002-05-12 13:00:33] Improved
I have to say I agree with Big Al I'm from the UK to and trendies over 30 are enough to make me puke. Townie spotted today at skate park, aged 40 on a BMX. *puking* I hope a few townies bump into this site and realise what their doin.Thanks
Ha townies what faggets [2002-05-13 12:05:44] Phil
Townies recken they r so hard when they walk around with one shoulder higher than the other. Well its not cool or hard its just gay. Especially when they r like 30 and hang about with 15 years olds thinking they are "wicked" and "sick". Townies around where I live think they can skate so they r constantly carrying around a skateboard and using wodrs like "sick" and "well harsh". They try to skit you about the stupidest things and it just isn't funny. So all townies in my eyes can fuck off!!!!!!! And Ruth was right townies should be drowned at birth
Reading the archives [2002-05-16 06:25:56] Andrew
Ohh man that was some long post, sounds like when I used to live in liverpool.

I remember seeing this girl with her orange fake tanned body wearing a hideous tan leather suit that excentuated her bulky body.

I was blind for weeks and I even now scream in my sleep.
u tell em! [2002-05-21 10:59:57] emily
kool webpage!!!!!! u tell em. enjoyed readin it.
agree [2002-05-22 07:58:33] me
i totally agree with you on this one. maybe you should check out this site www.metalhead.dot.nu
Metalhead bastard bastard [2002-05-30 12:33:54] Ruth
That is such a biased website, I mean the whole lot of it. Nirvana didn't die, Kurt Cobain did (not that I even like Nirvana AT ALL) And that whole Manson abortion thing is the most inncorrect thing ever, it's not even funny. The whole point is he was scared for life when his mother told him she'd had an abortion. To make it worse, he found the fetus outside in a coffee tin in his pre-teens. Fucking bastard scallies, now I hate them even more. I know I shouldn't generalise, and scallies I know personally are ok people but people like him are the pits.
scallies and their novas [2002-06-07 08:34:43] fil
Obviously scallies in the South are quite upmarket if they drive Ford Escorts. Round my way (South Manchester) everyone with a Max Power fetish drives a Nova 1.0 with rolled wheelarches and 18" wheels. Sometimes they even have a body kit. Fantastic. A 1/1 scale remote control car. No offence lads, but spending Ł3000 on a Nova that's worth jack shit isn't too clever, no matter how many fucking neons it's got. Since when has a sine wave been music? Why the hell do you all cruise round town with your windows down? Does anyone else want to hear what shite taste in music you've got? I don't get it.

I don't drive and I'm skint before you ask. I had a driving licence once. Wouldn't mind a Tatra 6032 actually. Arse.
Chavs [2002-06-21 10:45:13] Lauren
I no exactly how you feel...onlyin Kent we call them chavs. the thing is you dont even have 2 be a goth/grunger/skater to be called one. You just have 2 wear trousers which arent forced in2 a permanent wedgie and soveriegns! Also have you noticed how they always call you dirty or scummy b4 they spit at u....im sorry and ur the ones spitting at me! A lot of them wear fake burberry as well...and tke gr8 pleasure in reciting 'grungy' lyrics (which is basically the chorus to rolling)....it annoys me so much!
re: TOWNIES SHOULD BE DROWNED AT BIRTH [2002-06-21 14:13:44] dancing with death
This is the best article I have read !!!!! It is absolutly true!! Just had to tell you that it's great
*applauds* [2002-07-25 19:57:29] Gez
I had this sent to me in a forward a long time ago. Because it was seemingly public property, I put it on my website because I thought it was genius.

I don't really like classifying myself, but I suppose I am a mosher. I only ever wear baggy pants (so much more comfy than normal ones) various band T shirts, fishnet sleeves, fuckloads of bracelets, listen to alternative music etc. Where I live (Liverpool) the main hangout for moshers/goths is the Queen Elizabeth law courts and Chavasse park. It's a nice place to hang out with your friends in the summer, when it's hot and everyone's generally too tired to fight, but every now and again a huge group of scallies appear looking for a fight. It's irritating in it's pointlessness, but also irritating in the extreme cowardice of the moshers. 15 scalls turned up once, against at least 200 of the courts regulars, and it was the moshers who backed down. At least there wasn't a fight, but I can't help but think if the moshers showed a spine occasionally they'd be left alone, because scalls are cowards who won't ever attack a group anywhere near their size, or an individual anywhere near their strength. However, as there is seemingly an infinite supply of scalls in our area it would probably only make things worse. I really can't be bothered with scall bashing. I recognise that there are some decent ones out there and while I find their appearance comical, I let them be. It's the ones that find it necessary to rag on anyone not dressed in tracksuits that get to me.

One thing anyone from Liverpool will know is that to a scall, the vowel sound "eeee" is an insult. So generally, the worst I get walking along is "eeeeeeee" which I take great pleasure in. Getting into an "eeee" contest with a scall is the most fun thing ever. However, you get gems thrown at you such as "Goff" or "fuckin' gotttckks" (no. And it's "goth") "eeee mosher" (yes. I am aware of this.) "can I join your gang?" (yes. The initiation ceremony is jamming a banana up your arse then eating it with the skin still on. Here's a banana.) "Where do you learn to be a goff?" (there's special schools in Transylvania I don't know of, obviously) "Will you cop for my mate?" (I would, but I'd never be able to get the taste of cheap alcohol out of my mouth) and more. A common one also seems to be to shout random band names at you in an insulting way. For instance, I've had "eee, Blink 182" shouted at me whilst wearing a Nine Inch Nails hoodie. I mean...why?

The local mosher nightclub has gotten to the point where it's had to start stopping people who look like scalls and questioning them before letting them in, as they've started finding moshers, beating them up, stealing their hoodies then going into the club and knifing people. A scall in a Nine Inch Nails hoodie with the "NIN" logo on it was asked what his favourit band was. He looked down and said "errrrr...my favourite band is Nin." Another one in an Offspring hoodie was asked the same question. "Errrr...Offspring." When asked what his favourite Offspring song was the best he could come up with was "Love me do" or something retarded. Another local rock night had to be stopped as the scalls were turning up in droves with knives every Friday night. I just don't see where all this hate comes from. Moshers/goths hate scalls because they can't walk down the street without being verbally or physically abused. Why do scalls hate goths? I've never seen a group of moshers pick on scalls.

That said, a lot of the moshers and goths are a pathetic bunch. The nu-breeds, with their Sum41 hoodies and trackie bottoms don't seem to get the true point of scall hating. With most of us, it comes from a long time of having to suffer their crap whilst trying to ignore them. With them it seems to be some kind of sport.

Nu breed 1-Eeeee oh my god scalls are wrong
Nu breed 2-Eeeee I know
Nu breed 1-I saw a scall de other day like
Nu breed 3-Eeee fuckin' scall.
Nu breed 1-Yeah, I just said "EEEE YA SCALL" and ran away
*Cue group of laughing nu-breeds yelling "eeee" and "gerron'im"*

Most are just scalls in baggy pants. They share the same hobbies-getting drunk and hurling abuse at people. I was lying on Chavasse the other day minding my own business when a group of 12 year olds came over. They were approximately the 7298th group of moshers that day to ask me for cigarettes, alcohol or money.

12 year old number one-Eeee ya gorra ciggie?
Me-No. Smoking's disgusting. People who smoke should die. Go away.
*girl staggers off*
Some other 12 year old in a Rancid hoodie-Eeee, ya gorra ciggie I can lend? (wtf, how do you lend a ciggie?)
My friend-Neither of us smoke.
rancid hoodie girl-I bet ya do.
Third 12 year old-Eeee, ya gorra ciggie?
Me-FUCK OFF.
12 year old number one-*staggers back* ya gorrany jonnies?
Me-FUCK OFF AND GET KILLED.

This fucking 12 year old wanted condoms so she could shag her 12 year old boyfriend, an annoying little twerp in adidas trousers, a skate T shirt, a bad hawaiian shirt and a bandana with ganja leaves on it who called himself "Mantis." A few weeks previously one of their retarded little group had got drunk and slit her wrists with a broken lambrini bottle. Seemingly, they hadn't changed. Stupid kids. Every weekend it's the same too-all of the moshers turn up just to get wasted on cheap vodka from Eurowines (where they will seemingly serve toddlers) and weed. So for everyone making fun of the scalls for only wanting to drink-the moshers do it too, the difference being the moshers only want sex when wasted, the scalls seem to want to kick people's heads in.

Congratulations if you read all that.
help! [2002-07-29 16:12:46] Vicky
Where to start...hmmm...ok, just like to say ur site is great. VERY VERY funny. Thought there maybe someone on here who could help me. Im from cumbria and dnt suppose many of you know where that is, but if you do I DO NOT SPEND MY SPARE TIME SHAGGING SHEEP! Anyway, more to the point..recently round here, being mosher has become a trend. 5 year olds walk around in their slipknot huddies and adidas pants and it just makes u want to scream. I want to be different, and its hard to be different when ur view of different is everyone elses trend (hope that made sesne). I was never interested in music until i found kerrang on sky last year. Im off to the leeds festival in August and my wardrobe isnt exactly suited. I wear flared pants and tight hoodies and its really annoyin cos my wardrobe doesnt really express myself. My bf is from manchester and wears baggy pants and shirts and Id love to wear baggy pants and chains etc but have the prob of just lookin like im following the recent trend. Would just startin to be mosher now mean I arent a real one? Its so hard being different nowadays...Im scared, im gunna end up shavin my hair off and wear a clown suit just to stand out!!

cheers, -V-
[2002-07-31 08:08:05] Gez
It's not about what you wear, it's about your reason for wearing it. I have a Deftones T shirt which I'm betting about a million trendy moshers have, but I really don't care because anyone who knows me will know I'm wearing the shirt simply because I like the Deftones. If someone presumes otherwise then it really doesn't matter, because their opinion is of no consequence anyway. You shouldn't dress just for the sole reason to be different, it's just as ridiculous to avoid wearing what everyone else is dressing even if you like it as dressing the same as your mates is. Either way, you're paying way too much attention to trends. Wear whatever the fuck you like and don't care what people think, whether it's the same or different as everyone else, as long as you're wearing it because you like it, then you're an individual. And yes, that works for townies too.
i dont know somthing or u there u decide [2002-08-01 13:28:33] Duppi
That was a work of genious and should be on the nat cericulam(and would be if i have my way)u missed out new breeds well i thik u did i might just not have been paying atencion but other wise an abserloot work of art(y arnt u god)i meen the hole shoping bad thing GEEEEEENIOUS!(religion would be so mutch fun i meen the bible with scarcasm id never be able to face revalation again)i dont think there is sutch a thing as ahard trendy though(no smutty jokes pleese)after all every one gose down after a kick to the nackers(except somre of the femail ones)and that promanent chin thing is a stonage throw back or at least that is what we think it is from ourtopsy repost(viddow now avalable priced Ł9.99)oh and inserdently if any one is going to pick up on my spelling i am/have/havent(insert ramdon excuse here)plus i am dyslexic(ne rely i am i got letter and every thing to prove it)so if u do i will persenly not bother to hut u down or insult u in any whay unless i feel like it witch is pritty unlikly9although the letter are in the wron order iv got discalcules as well)
an apology (not the best post in the world just a tribute) [2002-08-01 13:35:26] Duppi
actualy the spelling realy was atrotous wasent it maby i do deserve a good insulting for that no dought i should have used a spel check but we carnt dwel in the past with out a time masheen and even then dosetn the fact we where delling there make it the present to us i dont know what happened with that ramdom number 8 thing ither oh and the tytle should be somthing along the lines of
I dont know somthing or other. u there u decide(and u use of u insted of you isent to save space its cos im a lazy bastered)
Poverty [2002-08-07 03:30:46] John
I agree with all that ur saying i myself have been kicked unconciouse many times before by large groups of scallys (dont u love Liverpool). But u have to accept the social and economic aspects that they go through, most of these people are being brought up by people as ignorant as themselves. Secondly they know no difference and this seems as natural as anything and any predudices should be attributed to main stream street society, which dictates what they can and cant do, and if these guidelines are not followed they become an outcast like us. Dont think by a long way i support them and i too wish we could find a free thinking scally. But its unlickely so if u can try and understand why they are like they are, it helps to deal with them.
Have a nice day.
John.
wow, stuff [2002-08-07 07:50:04] sevenhelz
erm... id first like to thank duppi for his contribution. its my fault, i directed him here ;) just kidding hun
has anyone else come across the term "gegger"? or is it just in st helens? i think it started as an insult, not sure exactly... stuff...
erm, trendies suck? its the way they assume we're all clones and worship the devil and crap, it's like yeah, obviously because we're different to you we're all the same as each other... or something...
im not even christian, i dont think the devil exists but i still get stupid little trendies thinking they're smarter than me and asking for his phone number, it's like, you're the one who wants it, not me.
i can see why people like skitting nubreeds and crap, some of them are scals but dont skit all of em coz some are actual people with their own ideas n tastes. also you may think smoking is disgusting, so did i for awhile, but in a lot of goth n stuff places theres people doing worse, dont be so small minded. this is kinda incomprehensible post really but hey, im supposed to be doing RE coursework.... bleagh.
i think maybe people also get confused by, like, classifying us, coz the whole *point* is that we're not the same... and the words mean different in different areas. erm yes luv ya all, feel free to mail me...
your right. [2002-08-10 07:45:05] Bex
I agree with practically everyting you said up there... some people just need a good kick up the arse.
Woah [2002-08-13 08:01:14] Ruth
A lot of comments. Great stuff.
I'm off to Cornwall now for the second time this summer. I hope this time I can escape getting a tan, which for me is like catching some sort of veneral disease, it's annoying, painful and embarassing to admit to.
Woah [2002-08-13 08:01:55] Ruth
A lot of comments. Great stuff.
I'm off to Cornwall now for the second time this summer. I hope this time I can escape getting a tan, which for me is like catching some sort of veneral disease, it's annoying, painful and embarassing to admit to.
Ooops. [2002-08-13 08:03:04] Ruth
I posted it twice. Anyway...
Hey [2002-08-15 04:21:41] Jim
I like this site a lot, but I'd like to know why 'townies' are actually called 'townies'. From where I come from, 'townies' are called 'kevs' and a 'townie' is someone who lives in a town. Can anybody please explain this to me please!?!
ok ............... [2002-08-21 14:55:11] Robyn
ok right im a townie was a goth in fact biggest goth in my year but i never go round slaggin towines off you say they ask stupid questions fair enough some do but your sayin is just as bad i under satand some of us can be twats but not all of you lot are nice are ya and trendies are not any form of townie they are a pikie bread so b4 you go round sayin all you shit just think we may do things but you do em to and if we satrt on some one at least they then shut up bout the problem
Just a comment [2002-08-21 16:44:50] Nick
You are sharp, you should come out for a pint with me in Sheffield city centre, you would NEVER run out of targets to aim at :-)
I am a lifetime loather of all things Elizabeth Duke.
Just a couple of things though, Rockport boots are VERY sexy if they are the only thing you are wearing (or so my boyfriend thinks), shaving your head makes it much easier to wipe (most) things of it (I can testify to this) :-)
And, I go out in 20 hole DM's and combat gear because I want people to see me, I get shit, but it's just wankers, you must feel the same ?
Keep-up the good work.
Nick
[2002-08-23 13:23:23]
i think to be honset you are a "hippy-crit" (haha spell it right) you say trendys discriminate against you for being different when you are steriotyping people different from you calling them "trendys". you are just as bad as those who take the piss out of you, to be honset you look as ugly and ridiculous as the people "trendys" you describe.get a life you attention seeker, are you one of those who cuts them sleves for attention?!you say your being different but you all look the same so why are you any differnt from so called townies, thick gold jewlry may not look attractive, but think about it does bike chains round your neck or beads round your wrists and black lips,always look at yourself before critising because i dont think you have a right to!
A drink round Sheff? [2002-08-29 23:54:39] Ruth
I did used to live there actually. Odd really, small World.
I live in Rotherham now. And i'm 15, so if your offer for a drink was at me, thanks but i'm a minor. Hehehe, yeah, Rockport do make nice shoes, I'm not denying that, but a lot of people at my school seem to think that because they're expensive they should constantly enquire about their worth. And it's really bugging.
Hippy-crit [2002-08-29 23:58:41] Ruth
You complete and utter stupid prat. If I had read your message prior to my previous post i'd have been very very mad. First of all the miss spelling as a purposeful attempt to portray the way the scallie said it. She said it as in that we were hippys and she was someone who, obviously, didn't live in a council house and have parents on the dole, and could judge us (when infact from her clothes it was obvious she did.) You, my stupid internet geek, are obviously a dumb one.
robyn and that stupid twat [2002-09-01 12:07:58] sevenhelz
first off, "biggest goth in my year"????! since when was it a competition? "they shut up about the problem"??? the point is that there isnt one, except that townies are stupid. where i come from trendy is just a word for someone who isnt a goth, it doesnt mean anything else and it isnt an insult. townie, on the other hand, means a trendy who hates goths.
i hate hitnrunners btw, coz i doubt anyone who should know this will read it. robyn presumably hasnt read the comments from goths sayying that you were a bit extreme.
anyway. a lot of people dont cut themselves for ATTENTION you fools, has it ever occurred to you that serious problems actually happen to us too? and that they actually mean something to people with brains?
and that stupid anonymous twat hasnt read the comments either, like i said before, we at least TRY to be different, there is loadsa stuff about how sometimes we look alike and sometimes we dont, why cant people listen to the whole story before talking bollocks?
theres exceptions to everything, except this...
im prolly not making any sense.... :( ill go cwy now
I HATE TOWNIES!!! [2002-09-02 12:44:13] Trinity Quasar
Dont let the title fool you, I dont hate townies, just the stereotypical ones described here, I just wanna complain about the ones that are the 'real' townies the "if you're not pretty we dont like you" ones, they are so fucking stereotypical, I saw a site once that was saying that by the age of twenty people aren't goth anymore I HAVE A %% YEAR OLD GRAN WHO IS A F***ING GOTH!!! I am a goth myself but I am proud of who I am, no I don't like my life but that is cos all the f***ing townies have ruined it. Well if you lived in Portsmouth, UK, you'd see why, I must be one of 7 Goths in the area of Paulsgrove, and the teachers discriminate against Goths too, have you ever noticed that teachers dont ban gold chains and rings and s*** at school yet they ban the following

Black Lipstick:

allow red lipstick, brown lipstick, purple lipstick, PINK POLKA DOTTED F***ING LIPSTICK!!! But black lipstick and you're in detention for a year and a half.

Black Eyeshadow:

Same as above except the word 'lipstick' is replaced with the word 'eyeshadow'

Hoodies:

Especially my one with 'Never Mind the Bollocks Here's the SEX PISTOLS!!!' written on the back, I dont know, plastic s*** and fake looking crap is allowed but you can't even show your support for your favorite band.

Dog collars:

Ok so it might look impractical, but have you ever heard of anyone being hurt with a dog collar unless it was a townie pulling it from behind? (Doesn't include me who was busy one day and passed out cos I hadn't realised I had done it up too tight and suffocated myself. oops... duuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lol I am such a dumb ass!)

Even teachers are against our personalities.

Let me give an example from one of my teachers

I was in my music class one day and we had to name a song that we thought sounded a bit like us or someone we knew, I said 'Marilyn Manson- Disposable Teens' and the teacher said 'No, I dont think that is the sort of music you say about in school.' So I said 'Slipknot- My plague' about my mother towards me, and she sent me out of the classroom, see? we are discriminated against by those who are their to educate us!!!*

So we aren't allowed to be 'untownie' in school and that is final is it? not if I can help it!!!

I'm going to stop talking shit now or I'll get killed by someone.

Anyone who agrees or wants to talk to me can email me or add me to their MSN messenger list with my above email address.

Yours sincerely

Trinity Quasar.

*When she left the class room I sung Disposable teens in her face and ran like hell anyway, so my words were not in vein, but I didn't half get a bollocking for it! LOL!
hahahaha [2002-09-03 13:37:22] me
this is a brilliant site i haft to say it's interetsing to see how many of those quetsiosn youve bene asked yourself!!!
Coooooool [2002-09-04 11:40:00] Vikki
This site is so cool...and its the best...all of it is so true..and its great 2 see someone that understands it like we do lol thanx 4 this site it rocks bye bye xxxx
Sorry Ruth [2002-09-06 03:15:00] Nick
Ooops, I thought you were older, forget that drink then.
Your very pissed-off for someone so young, I think this has something to do with living in Rotherham, not the worlds most cosmopolitan city.
Don't worry though, as you get older you will care less and less what other people think, eventually you will get to the point where you don't even have to dress like your friends, and they will still be your friends (imagine that !).
Something to look foreward to :-)

townies???? korns???? we're all people!?!? [2002-09-08 09:01:33] Kelly
RUTH: you're so called "report" on townies really pissed me off. it pisses me off that I get branded a townie just because i wear Rockport, Korns,Goths,Freaks call Townies 24/7 and when they get it back they cant take it and go into denial about "NOT BEING A GOTH" Just because we dont all like moshing doesnt make us all townies. I think its about time you all accept that people are people and if we were all meant to be the same... like the same things... dress the smae ways then there would be not point. so why dont you accept that people are people and shut the fuck up before you go running your mouth without considering any one elses feelings, i ahve close friends who are into marylin manson, korn, slipknot etc and i like them for who they are....not what they look like or what clothes they are wearing. I was just wondering what i would be stereotypically branded for shopping at selfridges,mango,top shop and new look?!?! i dont go getting pissed in bus stops, i go to bars (an advantage of looking older than you really are) oh and your comment about "if your not a goth your 'one of them'" SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
I am annoyed [2002-09-08 09:11:30] Becko
Wot if u dont like Goths or townies!? i think u shud get ur facts rite b4 calling people wot they arent. Bye
I am still anoyed [2002-09-08 09:16:59] Becko
u annoy me. i rock x
Great Site [2002-09-22 09:24:10] Rob
Hey I just got sent a link to this site by a friend and its great. It's good to see people hating scallies.
In my area (manchester) The Scallies use many tactics here are just a few:
1) "Lend me 10p now, I need it for the bus." (Erm sorry but we all know u need it for you White Lightning you'll be drinking on the park on friday night.)
2)"Whats the point in being a mosher?" (Whats the point in dressing the same as everybody else and listning to music which always has exactly the same drum beat?)
3)Blink 182 are crap all they do is scream about death. (Erm no they don't and why talk about Blink 182 anyway i certainly wouldnt class them in my list of favourite bands)
4)"What r u lookin at? Are you startin ith me?" (No its just that you've been starin at me for the last 10 minutes)
tpwnie debate [2002-09-24 15:03:36] kelkmasta
At the end of the work on a thursday or friday night me and my mates will walk past macdonlds to the pub and find a bunch of twelve year old middle class wanna be black fony tough twats shouting the same old shit at us. "Errr Slipknot! You like Slipknot!" These people piss me off I fucking hate Slipknot they're shit. Why do all townies assume we all like them? Please will someone answer that for me.
repl;y [2002-09-25 01:42:01] ben
there are things worse than townies they have no name there "alternative" they wear all black listen to slipknot stand outside buildings (sound familliar) swear at old people and think its clever to copy jackass, there like townies except there the middle class variety who are up them selves and believe just because the dont dress the same as townies that there diffrent THERE THE SAME JUST IN DIFFRENT CLOTHES
[2002-09-25 12:18:19] sevenhelz
so basically, people are shit. i vote we kill them all.

discounting alice eccles, she's fab.
[2002-09-25 13:01:54] sevenhelz
so basically, people are shit. i vote we kill them all.

discounting alice eccles, she's fab.
Townies should die [2002-09-27 15:53:33] Lee Piechowicz
I read the article on why townies shold die, and totally agree.
Me myself listen to rock music (escially System of a down)and wear the clothing now ad again.
I go out with me mates who also listen to rock, but a few of usr the odd townie but not like the steriotypical type. and the gang of townies that hang round the shops, come to us 'stoned out of their brains, lookin 4 a fight.
Now I dunno what their problem is, but any one wearing a band hoodie or baggy jeans, they will target,and they really piss me off.
And so I think they should die
I listen to Rock, who should care? [2002-09-27 16:18:40] Lee
I now am really nervous when I wear me rock (Grebb) clothes, I dont give a shit about what music or clothes people have. I could get on well with other Grebbs or Townies (or Goths), but somehow, some twisted people, think it's cool 2 smoke, do drugs and listen 2 rap, and wear designer clothes, and any on who doesn't abide by these aspects is totally differant and should have abuse hurled at up, threatened and beaten up.
Now these people are mainly people who wear hoodies with a bandname on em, chains on baggy trousers and possibly wear spike bracelets and werid pendants.
I shouldn't happen, people shouldn't care what people wear or what music they listen to. We are just steriotyped. any one who wears hoodies, worships the devil and is a freak, and the ones who wear designer clothng and listen to rap, causes trouble, threatens people an takes drugs. WRONG
WOAH! [2002-09-28 12:27:43] Ruth
I thought I was angry, all these messages. Gee whiz.
I only posted that to vent my anger, and it worked. Actually, i've not had any thing said recently that has bothered me, and it wasn't really what was said but how often people would judge. I don't care what anyone wears, I just care that other people care. What I do doesn't affect others lives, so I don't see why other people should try and affect mine.
HI I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY TO [2002-09-30 18:49:02] AMANDA
You goths always say that we normal people are preps,snobs,and everything else. Mabey some people just want to be a kid and experience everything they can while they can. Don't make fun of them cause they wear tight clothes or athletic. That is childish. I don't care if your 50, you have no reason to talk like that. Some people have not discovered themselves and find ways to make themselves look cool in front of there friends. I used to think the exact same way about 3 years ago and now I have matured and know why theres preps,cheerleaders, wannabes, and all that shit. You just cant judge someone cause they have more money or look better than you. All I have to say is get a life. Cause it really bugs me when people think they know people and they don't you are not inside thier brain. Hell unless you a fucking witch! Just dont say this about people. PLUS: 9 year olds get influenced by their elders, they just want to be able to fit in. Leave them alone. their just teenagers and kids.


*~Amanda*~
amanda [2002-10-13 07:42:19] sevenhelz
okay since when did people wanting to still be kids dress up in something that would look sexy if they actually had a figure? none of you argument makes sense. you are complainin about us generalising but you said "you goths always..." sound a little hypocritical to you? no? i rest my case, you are thick.
just thought i'd comment on comments.... [2002-10-16 11:43:21] sevenhelz
i get bored, this site cheers me up :)

"why dont you attach your chains to your dog collar?" i do, sometimes

"urghhhh... mosher!" how the fuck would you know?

"linkin park cant sing" i know, i hate them almost as much as i hate you

why do you wear sleeping bags on your legs? (while not wearing baggies? hmmm) its in case i magically turn into you and have to sleep on the street

do you dress all in black
what the fuck do you think im wearing? im all in black now? fgs, are you just thick?

do you eat people?
hell yes. keep away.

whats a mosh pit?
the place where you will die, i hope

blink182 r crap
i know? im wearing a system of a down hoodie for fucks sake!

and my fave
(people walking behind, whispering)
six... six... six
ooh... terrified now. will have to run home and hide behind my mother, because some stupid trendy made a vague reference to something i dont believe in... the trauma.

bit pissed off at the world especially trendies, even my teacher is prejudiced, he should damn well know im a goth, i practically have signs up in the air flashing neon pink saying "system of a down rock!! and im making a gothic lamp!" and he comes over and talks about yellow things, and weird texturey stuff. some of my "friends" keep askin me bout my ideas too, sayin "they dont look like lamps" well yeah, coz i really want it to look like evrything else you've ever seen. another favourite is "i think you should do that one kate drew, the pink mushroom" hell yeah, thatd go down so well wiv serious goths
it might sell okay but i do want somethn seriopus and actually gothic so im sorry but theyre just pissin me off, sure you know the feelin

mmm... human leg.... goes great wiv bbq sauce
CHICKEN. [2002-10-17 08:19:28] Fizzy
I just have to say that this website is fucking hilarius. I was actually laughing out loud. Well cringing as well. i totally know what you are talking about!!

Although ive never been asked why i have red eyes, throughout my "goth" stage i was taunted with "you eat people" (of course i do) and "Goffick Tart." Yes, it hurt. My only friends were out of school, no one would stick up for me at school, i was pretty much alone.

But, i carried on, ignoring it and even beginning to love the attention they'd give me. Eventually (after my first year at upper school) people decided to get to know me and found out how wonderful and great i am!!

So, it just goes to show that people can be great dispite what they look like and the scene they follow. Although its fucking hillarius to stereotype townies/wrong uns/kevs/shazzas/gazzas just think they COULD be an alright person. (But then again, they often druik warm larger in bus stops and chew copious amounts of gum...it makes you wonder doesnt it??!!)

Sorry bout the waffle kido's!!
Stay fluffy and try to get along
Fizzy the hippie child XxX
Townies On Drugs [2002-10-19 11:33:34] Rob
http://www.towniesondrugs.com
Do you get a buzz from dressing like that? [2002-10-20 10:42:16] nova
k i dont know if anyones commented on this but ill put my two cents in.
Do you get a buzz from dressing like that?
of course i do! when you dress in a way you like and enjoy it gives you a sense of power and pride. why would you dress in a way that dosent make you happy. so i guess you could say ya it gives me a buzz. sorry im preachen to the choir but you get the point.
Ps where im from we call townies preps.
"U DID NOT WRITE THIS" [2002-10-29 12:46:09] Dan Weir
Hey, i would like to point out that you did not write this, it is a very funny piece written by my friend 3 years ago, she put it in a forward and suddenly half the web is taking credit for it. Her name is Ellie and she is now 17. I think she deserves credit for her work.

U will hear from her shortly

Please rewfrain from submitting work that is NOT yours, thanx
[2002-10-30 11:54:22] sevenhelz
im not saying she did and im not saying she didnt but considering how alike townies are it is quite possible for two people like us to come up with pretty much the same thing completely independantly.
yes but [2002-10-30 15:06:06] Dan Weir
couldn't agree more, but it is exactly the same, word for word. The order of the list is identicle, even the introduction. There is no way this wasn't coppied, I'm sorry, but it's true.

Love to all ('cept townies)
-dan
-x-
Ruth, if that IS your real name... [2002-10-30 15:42:42] Ellie
Well at least I should thank you for the publicity.

For your information, thingsihate.com readers, Ruth did NOT write her article on townies, my friend and I did 3 years ago.
Furthermore Ruth, we did not write it so that silly little girls - who are angry at daddy for taking away their allowance and have since decided that only Slipknot understand them - could post it on websites as their own.

Perhaps you should look at yourself before you criticise townies for unoriginality.

If you want further proof, click on my name.
thing i hate [2002-10-31 09:03:30] karen
if theres one thing i hate more than townies
ITS PEOPLE WHO PRETEND TO HAVE WRITTEN HILARIOUS PIECES OF WRITING ABOUT TOWNIES, WHEN ACTUALLY THEY WERE SENT THEM IN A FORWARD

WELL THIS TIME ITS BACKFIRED FUCKFACE
CAUSE I WROTE THAT!
ME!!
ME AND ELLIE!!!!

MWAHAHAHAHAHA

we're gonna have your ass for dinner with apple sauce


sounds familiar [2002-10-31 16:51:10] elkurto mcjewbags
we're watchin you ruth, thiefy word changer....
[2002-10-31 16:58:02] Ellie
By the way, sevenhelz, you spelt independently wrong.

And I am preparing my pallet for ass and apple sauce as we speak.
townies sooo much betta than skanky grungers [2002-11-01 14:09:04] MILLA
grungers, sk8ers, goths wot ever the hell u freaks are
i hate the lot of ya,
all you do is slit ur writs 2 get attention my m8 duz it and her reason is `because she is a grunger`.
GO GET ALIFE YOU SAD TWATS.
Yes, my name is Ruth... [2002-11-02 08:03:38] Ruth
And yes I am guilty as charged, but I don't think the claiming to know my musical tastes was quite right. I don't like Slipknot. Further more, I did say I only edited this from a chain email I recieved a year and a half ago... but... meh. Be angry, it might make you feel better. Feel free to ask Staniel to give you the credit, I wouldn't mind.
[2002-11-02 12:59:11] Ellie
I enjoy the way you tried to sound blase there. For your information, this rant is on many other websites but the owners have pointed out where it came from BEFORE they wrote it, rather than in a little 'oh by the way' comment afterwards.

'Feel better?' Actually you're right, it might make me feel better. All I seem to do is follow silly subcultures and steal other people's work in a bid to impress people I don't know. Oh no, wait...
reguarding the theft of my work [2002-11-02 16:17:24] Karen

Dearest Ruthy

Thankyou for your confession via email.
I was most appreciative of your honesty.
However, I am NOT appreciative of your meanyness towards Ellie, most certainlyest the best speller throughout the land.

Because you have been so snidey in your answer to her message, I have decided to point out the inconsistencies in your ?argument?.

Lets go through this step by step.

You began your little page thing on September the 10th, 2001.
After receiving praise from fellow townie haters, you had the following to say:

?I have friends that are townies its just I had to write down MY feelings?

?I have another little thing that happened to ME i'd like to share?

messages were posted regularly telling you how good and funny you were. Perhaps this would have been a good time to point out that you had infact stolen your humour and goodness from someone else?

Apparently not.

It was, infact, on February the 14th that you admitted you didn?t write it (funnily enough when people started accusing you of nastiness).

?I found that article on towniehaters.com, I felt it encompassed nearly all of my anger, so I added my own extras and submited it here?

well. I hate to pick holes but that?s not what you said on November the 2nd 2002.

?I did say I only edited this from a chain email I recieved a year and a half ago... but... meh?

I wouldn?t bother to mention this except you were obviously feeling twatishly smug when you wrote it.

Anyway, following your confession, you sloped off back into your naughty ways,never again mentioning your thievery.
And once more you began to imply that you had written it yourself
For example
On August the 29th 2002, (almost a year later)

?First of all the miss spelling as a purposeful attempt to portray the way the scallie said it. She said it as in that WE were hippys and she was someone who, obviously, didn't live in a council house?

Actually it was a boy who said that. But I don?t suppose you?d know. Seeing as you weren?t there and all.

My dearest goil. Fair do?s now, you don?ts really got any right to bitch off at Ellie, especially when she?s being so nice about the situation. the situation in which you are a thief and she is a victim of your thoughtless ways. please remember that.
and notice no ones eaten your ass yet.




Ps:
APRIL 11th 2002 ?everyone deserves to live? and yet you choose to call your page Townies Should Be Drowned At Birth. lying about that too it seems.

funny that
PPS [2002-11-02 16:26:31] Karen
i proudly admit to my lack of spelling skills
but i will point out YOUR lack of spelling skills as though you shouldn't be proud seeing as you value it so much

who can count the spelling mistakes in ruth's messages

for example how many Os in the word SO

and also some serious ones

hahaha
Actually... [2002-11-03 10:29:10] Ruth
I got it in an email and then subsequently read it on towniehaters.com. Seeing as you're only bothered about argueing, I am going to pursue the changing of author, it's only fair. And yes... meh. Meh until I die.
As you and I both believe, opinions change. I said everyone has the right to life after I wrote the title 'Townies should be drowned at birth.' I know i've changed but the kleptomaniac in me cries proceed.
'I would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for my crap editing...'
Oi! Right, listen here, you lot. [2002-11-03 11:42:47] staniel
I've changed the author's name (with no email from this Ellie person, so if you're out there and I added an apostrophe when I shouldn't or something, email the editors).

That said, I don't want to hear any more Ruth-bashing, or I'll smash a pint of Boddington's in your jaw.
[2002-11-03 13:12:03] Ellie
Staniel - whoever you are - your spelling was impressively correct. However, if I click on the advert in the top right-hand corner of the screen and am not subsequently immortal, I might consider suing you.

Right, well I got what I wanted (and a little more) from this I will not further the matter.

Thank you and au revoir.

Oooh it's a bit gorgeous...
Isn't it though? [2002-11-03 13:50:53] Ruth
By eck, It's like a cattle market in 'ere.
Staniel's spelling [2002-11-07 19:21:10] another timmy
as far as i've ever noticed, Staniel's spelling always seems to be impressively correct. definitely a highlight of the things he writes, such dandy grammar. i wish i could be all grammatically correct, too.


there are many more comments on this page than i expected.
townies on drugs [2002-11-09 09:48:43] Rob
Townies On Drugs
[2002-11-15 09:42:16] Adam
this is soo true.. i came looking for anti-townie stuff cos ive had like 6 threats today.. and thats just in the space of walking home from school. (15 minits). but u forgot to point out the new 'fashion' of boys wearing big fluffy fur coats. go to http://www.eclipse.does.it
cheers :)
fuck yeah m/ [2002-11-16 16:24:12] bassist pez
took me ages to read through everyones comments but i did m/ i have to say even though most you guys wear baggy jeans i wear close fitting ones (usually ripped at the knees so i can tear the bottoms off if i get caked in mud at outdoor pits, this springs all kinds of interesting questions and statements, ie "your jeans are ripped" "oh you think? its a good job you told me, id never have known! .... prick!"). as far as music goes im into the darker side of things than most people here, who seem to be out for punk and alternative stuff... im more of a harsh man myself. i like most old thrash like slayer, deliverance, the haunted (even though theyre not massivly old), doom stuff like candlemass, my dying bride; death like cannibal corpse, cryptopsy etc. be sure to check out our website dudes. and be excellent to each other (apart from townies :P) m/
Totally agree but where do I go? [2002-11-17 10:37:18] Lucy
U have got it soooo rite'cept the first bit. I am not a goth but by no means am I a chunky fake nicked gold wearing bimbo who thinks white trousers with black thongs looks cool (why I hear u cry - I don't kno). I am just a a 16 yr old who likes going out into town for a drink (I mean bars not bus shelters), I like (all) music, I hate slogan t-shirts, yet love most clothes. So whats the verdict?
[2002-11-17 12:34:15] jackass
you're slagging off townies and saying they should appreciate that everyone dresses / acts differently well aren't u just being hypocritical - coz at the end of the day they are just different to u. i dont understand the whole townie grunger thing i mean i'm a grunger but im friends with a few gold chain wearing townies - whats the problem??!



yes [2002-11-22 06:42:03] sevenhelz
i apologise for the error i have been very tired and ill for what seems like forever. actually i have been exhausted for several months, and ill for several days. why is there so much arguing on this page? i mean, about the article is fine, but about who wrote it? i would want credit too if it were me but its not as if it gains money or anything, theres no need for a catfight or owt. anyway... my life is weird, im seeing a trendy and im not even sure i know what one is anymore... :S plus apologies if my grammar punctuation etc make no sense if i took psychology id probably say it reflected my head :S please dont flame me there is too much temper and i am illb.
top site [2002-11-23 17:16:44] Tommy
u got a top site going. i fully agree with ur townie article. fashion is for people who can't think for themselves. that goes for try hard pseudo goths as well
VERY TRUE [2002-11-26 10:02:34] Issy (UK)
Oh that is so true I completely agree. My favourite type of townie to take the piss out of is the type that have dyed blonde (or plastic red) hair with the dark roots showing half way down, 1 litre of hairspray on everyday, a trademark pink stretch top with the typical 'babe', 'cute' or 'glamour princess' on them (which they obviously think they are) and a VERY short white PVC or denim skirt and plastic stilletos! their only way of conversation is to talk of hair, the happenings at the last disco they were at and discussing who their current boyfriend is(some of them forget!). To keep entertained they read magazines, and throw 'Caudilia from Buffy'type insults about how we clever types look. My friend Cara and I simply reply 'at least we don't want to look exactly like a barbie, rubber skin, plastic hair and all!'
bye!
townies? so hard i don't think! [2002-11-26 12:28:21] Samosa (oi)
I just want to say i agree with every single thing Ellie has written. I'm not a goth or skater or anything really, certainly not a townie! But to them i'm another freak! even i think i'm a bit weird so i must be a perfect victim to them.
I have discovered a new brand of townie: the townie-goth-slut. (no offense to goths). Admittedly i only know 1 of these (i won't name her on the off-chance that she visits this web site). she tries to dress like a goth but doesn't succeed very well. She goes around in a denim skirt with fish nets and dr. martens that she can't even do up properly and a nirvana hoody that she probably nicked from her twin brother (who is really nice by the way).
Once i was going back to her house with some friends ( as in with her brother) and we were on the bus. For some reason she decided she didn't like us so she and her "hard" friend from another school went to the back of the bus where all the proper townies were sitting. They told the proper townies that we had been calling them slags so they all came back down the bus and started having a go at us.
They were like "you bin callin' my friend a slag?" (in really townie accents)" cos if you 'ave i'm gonna beat u up"
Me and my friend hadn't done anything so of course we said no, but they kept on at us "yeah well you better not have been callin' my friend a slag you f**king slag cos if i find out you have i'll smack your head in!"
But my friend katie kind of put her foot in it because she said "oh you're so hard! i'm so scared!" so of course they got really annoyed. And when we got off the bus they were following us, pulling our hair really hard, going "stop calling us slags u f**king slags!" ( we weren't saying anything) and then they got in front of us and wouldn't let us past and the oldest kept telling the others to hit us cos we were being so "rude".
One thing with towniesis u can't win. What ever u say you're being sarcastic or threatening them or dissing/jipping/mouthing them and they're gonna beat you up. If you say nothing at all you're ignoring them and they're gonna beat you up. If you look at them then u have a problem and deserve a punch, but if you don't look at them then you are being rude and the only answer is to beat you up.
I reckon they must spend ages thinking of shit insults and bullying tactics that, if they are meant to impress you and make you think they are hard, don't work, they just make you hate them.

Here are some handy techniques on how to handle townies:

1. if you see a group of them and you're on your own - look the other way or cross the road or run in the opposite direction.
2. if they actually try and do something or do more than shout insults e.g. they follow you or circle round you or block your path - act completely mad: start hitting yourself on the head whilst jumping up and down making strangled chicken noises with your tongue sticking out the side of your mouth. Or roll on the floor going blub blub blubblub. ( however, make sure you can get to your feet quickly. They won't hesitate to kick you if your down and it's the most prone position). or roll up your trousers, kick of your shoes and start doing a mad dance. Any thing along these lines, or sumthing equally crazy.
3. Learn a martial art.

REMEMBER: NEVER rise to their bait. they are looking for a fight, don't give them any opportunity. Ignore them if you can but if they get you cornered don't let them walk all over you and don't insult them or be sarcastic.

Most of the townies where i live are the hard type: they wear puffer jackets and adidas trousers and the girls wear heel that are so high they almost fall over with every step and can't walk properly. They also coat themselves in really unflattering makeup and enough hair spray to exterminate at least 5 whole ant hills.

I just want to say to any townies who are stupid enough to readn this:
Stealing stuff from the science block isn't hard/cool/impressive!
I don't think you're tough becuase you have about quadrouple the amount of saliva of any other human being and spit it out at every available opportunity.
Going around in a gang isn't really hard or any way to live your life because you'll make so many enemies bullying people that if you've got any sense you won't go out alone in case their around in a group, considering the way you all treat people i'm sure lots of them wouldn't hesitate to show you what it's like to be picked on.
Swearing every other word and smoking in the toilets/behind the music block/just outside the school gates isn't hard/tough/cool/impressive/fear-inducing and doesn't make people want to be like you!
Yes, I will mouth you, you beeyatch [2002-11-26 13:15:03] oi squared
Can i just say that I was involved with Samosa (oi) and her incident and I was the one that put my foot in it and my name is Bob not Katie. (Thats my cover up). Also, I agree. Also, townies are the biggest hypocrites alive. I mean, who else one minute is calling you a load of offence names all strung in a row, and if you so much as open your mouth, you are told "not to mouth them, you slag". Whatever you mutter is sarcastic, whatever you say is mouthing them, whatever you do is a threat. Just pretned to be a cicken and they should back off. At the weekend, whilst screeching in mock delight (Ok I really was quite delighted) "It's Santa in his grotto!" with my two other friends whilst legging it up the stairs in a shopping mall, two townies who we have never seen in our life just start to make fun of us mocking our mocking (if you get what I mean). So my friend laughs and starts to wiggle her a*** at them. So then, completely hypocritically the townie says "Don't make fun of me, slag". My friend doesnt stop even though I warn her through past experience (with Samosa oi) to ignore them. Well we walk into a photo thing and the townie comes in, looking extremely intimidating with an unlit fag in her mouth (really, think how scary that is, NOT!) bumps into me and just stands there, trying to llok hard. Well, may I remark that it isn't particularly frightening when you have an unlit fag in your face. My friend suggested biting the fag out of her mouth and ripping it up (he makes me laugh) or begin to make random noises and try to be a chicken (also fun to do and see their reactions)
NOTE: learn judo. Samosa oi attempted to teach me today, but i was a bit crap
refernce to sex and samosa (oi)s comments [2002-11-26 13:18:34] oi squared
my name isnt katie its Bob
i love townies because they give me something to laugh about [2002-11-26 14:19:57] extortionate cake lady (UK)
first of all, i would like to say, who cares who wrote that thing on townies? it was hilarious and made me roll around on the floor with histerics and compassion for the author.
i would also like to agree and express my concern about townie fashion. Ten year olds wearing tops proclaiming: "warning this bitch bites" or "too tasty for boys" is neither cool nor attractive in any concievable way.especially when worn tightly over a wonder bra heavilly padded with tissue from the girls toilets, where they have been skiving all afternoon smoking and writing witty remarks on the walls like "i woz ere" to innocent victims who just need the loo.
the graffiti thing really gets to me, dont get me wrong, i think done properly it is really cool but i dont give a rats arse if tracy has a bucket fanny! i just want to be able to skip merrily through the subway without discovering that shane had up shelly up the bum. why they think anyone cares about this sort of rubbish is beyond me but i am even more supprised that they bother telling the world that "maddy is a fuckin slut" beacause what they have failed to notice is that we have always known maddy to be a slut and we do not need it scrawled across our english desks in marker pen.
ps what the hell is a trendie? call me crazy but in my inbred little town, being trendy means being stylish or sophisticated!!
why suffer wen u can BURN townies? [2002-11-27 11:31:27] Vision
first of all I HATE TOWNIES!!!!!! and second of all I LOVED the article and in truth i have been asked thows questions my self (exesept 'is ur head an animal?') and i noticed that townies won't give me the time of day but they exspect me to lend them half my pencilcase on fleeting demand! but there are only about 5 goths in my year and i am the only one in my tutor-group, so the rest of my friends are mainly 'freaks' and 'hippys' and they get a lot of stick from the townies but they seem curious about me and ask lots of strange questions, but also some of them will be (rather scairingly)
quite nice to me (rarely) maby it is because thair scaired but maby they just want to show of by 'hanging' with a 'gofic' person. one last thing is that goths are goths not gof of gothic because we are not a type of fish (guppy-gof) or a landscape/type of art/style of architecture!
y breath wen u can scream, y laugh wen u can cry,y run wen u can fly......and y suffer wen u can BURN TOWNIES
Townies rule! not... [2002-11-27 12:26:54] - - - - - -
excuse me, but what is the problem with townies? I mean seriously, what is going on there? most of the boys r bullies/druggies and spend their whole time at school swearing at the teachers, and the girls r druggie sluts.They wear so much gel in their hair 2 slick back their ponies, that if you ever ended up accidently with your hand in their hair, you would never get it out again. They hang round the music block at our school smoking, thinking they are 'hard'. they also smoke in the phonebox on our way to school (obviously they are invisible there) they spend their whole time in the subway writing stuff such as 'emma was ere' 'jenny's a slut' 'i am a minger' its like kinda obvious, so we don't really need any stuff like that writtin on walls as well. they will use any excuse to use phrases such as 'I'm gonna put your head through the wall' 'ur doing my head in' 'I'm gonna smack you in the mouth'. I mean, why don't townies just get out our world?!
wat r townies for? [2002-11-27 14:24:26] pooky
I am also affected by townies and have experienced such things! Just the other day i was shopping with 2 of my freinds when we saw a sign sayin SANTAS GROTTO THIS WAY being the fun loving ppl we are we ran towards it going i want to sit on his lap and so on! some stupid townies (also going to see santa therefore not cooler than us and were not intitled to yell at us for seeing him) started shouting "oi taking the piss are you?" and we chose 2 ignore thewm but walked off when we learned that in order to see santa you must pay Ł2.50. Anyway the townies thought we were leaving on their behalf and started yelling "scared of us are you!" to this i wiggled my bottom whilst walking which just caused them to charge up 2 me wiv an unlit fag in their mouth and start having a go at me 4 taking the piss. It was a good job their fag wasn't lit though because if it was the whole place would have gone up in smoke due to the amount of hairspray they have in their hair.
Townies makeup and hair (girls): they all wear about a million scrunchies and a litre of hirspray to hold their pony tails up so high! they have loads of spots due to all the smoking and drugs that they do, thus meaning they use so much foundation, usually the powder type which leaves flakes around the spots and actually makes it worse. But they obviously think this looks so cool that they have to spend their whole lunch time in the bogs infront of the mirror putting it on.
townie graffitti: graffitti looks really good when done properly don't get me wrong but its the sort of stuff we have to put up with written on our shool tables and chairs and scrawled all over the subway. Have you ever been sat there in your maths lesson totally unaware what was under your bottom? well i'm warning all the people out there to not open their legs too wide whilst sitting on a school chair because there is most probably a picture of a penis drawn there with a label pointing to it saying "DICK". I mean what is the point? Although they are very conciderate for when you're bored in lessons, I mean they keep us all updated on who fancies who by engraving it on the tables so poor innocent ppl have to clear it up during tutor time (especially if your tutor is mr hacker).
And then the subway, lets not forget that, poor harmless people like me have to walk through there every day on the way to and from school. Each time to be sufocated by cigarette smoke, bombarded by townies riding in super market trollies and practically killing themselves when they crash into the metal barriers and fly over the top! haha that made me laugh( especially when their tacky cheep puffer jacket ripped apart and all the feathers that it was stuffed with came flying out. back to the subject of graffitti in the subway. there are unavoidable comments about certain people being cool or raping donkeys. And some stupid idiot decided that "sally groves is miss groves's name" was an unknown fact so decided to write it all over the place.
But I think the worst thing of all that i have ever seen a townie do was when i was working past the grave yard with my friends on the way to school and some sick drugged up townies grapped this poor little rabbit up from the bush and stabbed it on the railings. They must have been sick because these people just stood there while the rabbit struggled and the blood was dripping off it. They were in hysterics watching it die. That should give you some good reason to hate townies like i do.
Honestly, this is what I think [2002-11-27 16:38:23] Nick
I keep checking back here every now and again to read the comments people post. I find it very ammusing that in one sentance you're all saying "I hate fuckin townies, they think they're so superior" but in the next sentance your saying "woe is me, why can't they just accept us as being different to them ?". I've got skater and goth mates that would beat you to death if you crossed them, but they are people who have decided not to take any shit from anybody and they have me and their other mates to back them up if push comes to shove. I'm not a goth, and I'm not a skater, and I'm not a freak (the jury is out on this), and i'm not 16, and i'm not at school, and i'm not at college or university, BUT I can give you the benefit of my experience.
1) The main rule. Fuck 'em if they don't like it, walk away, keep your dignity.
2) If they resort to physical violence. so should you (Thai boxing is very easy to learn, keeps you fit, and you can defend yourself). Don't think of yourself as "harmless" and "fluffy".
3) Bear in mind that 10 years from now you will probably be earning Ł15,000 a year more than them (if they earn anything) and you won't have 5 kids and a crack habit to support.
4) Don't hate complete strangers, to hate someone, you really have to know them.
You are in charge of your own lives, if you want to be a victim you will be (believe me, I know, 2 weeks in hospital for not standing up for yourself soon changes your outlook on life).
Anyway, that's my opinion, I welcome any E-mails or reply via this website.
p.s. Excuse my grammer and spelling, I never went to university.
townies suck [2002-11-28 13:14:47] Vision & Sucorah
we hate townies and barbie-girl wannabes that wear pink, pink, pink and jeans so tight around their **** that they can't walk prperly(and their 7 inch heels.)also they wear skirts sooooo tight (and short) that they could be passed as belts! They also have so much self confidence that they pick on people to make it clear to others that that is so, and it comes into every sentence.
[2002-12-01 03:52:56] Samosa (oi)
I hate townies as much as any1, but sometimes i have to pity them. They unknowingly wreak their lives at about the age of six or seven, when they start to hang around with their older siblings (townies), who give them fags, alcohol and probably drugs as well. I wouldn't be surprised if their sibligs have sex in front of them (with other people i hope - not family - although many townies are inbred, which maybe explains their disability to realise what they are doing to themselves seeing as they were born with non-existant brains). By avbout 13 at the latest, most townies have lost their virginity, the boys probably earlier, and they seem content to do it with anyone because they think that fucking in bushes and back alleys is cool and hard. Townies seem to think that getting anything above a D at school is swotty, seriously soft/weak/means you are a loser/sucker and a boffin. They are under the impression that calling sum1 a boffin is a dreadful insult, they probably hope that you will retaliate in a burst of anger so that they can have an excuse to beat you up. But there's nothing wrong with being clever and a 'boffin' getting Cs and above is good if you want to make any head way in life. They also proceed to call you a boffin and a stupid bitch/idiot/sumthing along those lines, in the same sentance which is a complete contradiction although they wouldn't be able to work that out due to their brains being corrupted by alcohol and drugs.
still i pity them because they have no idea that their lives are in the trash and that they have now reached rock bottom and are startinbg to dig, they think that they are amazing ly cool, superior to everyone else and the only thing anyone should ever want to be.
hypocrisy [2002-12-06 07:39:46] sevenhelz
people keep pointing out flaws in others' arguments, i think basically we are all hypocrites, but if anyone objects i'll retract ;)
i want socks for christmas, anyone else?
Townies, is there a point? [2002-12-06 11:44:44] spaghetti on a plate
I would like like to ask a question. Is there a point in Townies? I think not. I mean, they spend their whole time, swearing, yelling, smoking, slapping cheap makeup all over their faces and getting done by the police.
They slap about 5 inches of makeup on their faces every single day, as my friend so rightly pointed out on here, they put a whole can of hairspray in their hair everytime they style it! Which reminds me, isn't that a deadly weapon? If someone started 'mouthin' them' they could just hit them with their ponnies and they'd knock them out! Anyway, I think that they are so affected by all the chemicals they put all over them everyday. I mean in their Ł1.50 perfume, cheap tacky makeup, 3 items for Ł5 and buy 3 get 4 free hairspray. The chemicals must damage their brains coz they can only say one word f**k and they all look pretty much exactly the same! And little kids at primary school smoking, is no way cool. Just pathetic. Why don't townies just get lost? We don't actually care about them or any stuff that they do. As i said before, is there a point? No. There is not.
[2002-12-09 08:13:09] Samosa (oi)
Sorry it's me again. Is it only me or do townies have the most annoying swagger under this forgetten sun? They walk around like their shoulders are on either end of a see-saw that moves to the left and right as well as up and down. And their hips kind of move in the opposite direction as tho they're attached to a psycho pendulum that's decided it no longer wants to be at the bottom of a grandfather clock and would rather do country dancing. Except that it doesn't manage it, the pendumlum can only stomp around trying to be hard but possessing instead a mixture of defensive agression and corrupted machismo.

[2002-12-09 08:13:09] Samosa (oi)
Sorry it's me again. Is it only me or do townies have the most annoying swagger under this forgetten sun? They walk around like their shoulders are on either end of a see-saw that moves to the left and right as well as up and down. And their hips kind of move in the opposite direction as tho they're attached to a psycho pendulum that's decided it no longer wants to be at the bottom of a grandfather clock and would rather do country dancing. Except that it doesn't manage it, the pendumlum can only stomp around trying to be hard but possessing instead a mixture of defensive agression and corrupted machismo.

[2002-12-09 08:13:11] Samosa (oi)
Sorry it's me again. Is it only me or do townies have the most annoying swagger under this forgetten sun? They walk around like their shoulders are on either end of a see-saw that moves to the left and right as well as up and down. And their hips kind of move in the opposite direction as tho they're attached to a psycho pendulum that's decided it no longer wants to be at the bottom of a grandfather clock and would rather do country dancing. Except that it doesn't manage it, the pendumlum can only stomp around trying to be hard but possessing instead a mixture of defensive agression and corrupted machismo.

[2002-12-09 08:13:11] Samosa (oi)
Sorry it's me again. Is it only me or do townies have the most annoying swagger under this forgetten sun? They walk around like their shoulders are on either end of a see-saw that moves to the left and right as well as up and down. And their hips kind of move in the opposite direction as tho they're attached to a psycho pendulum that's decided it no longer wants to be at the bottom of a grandfather clock and would rather do country dancing. Except that it doesn't manage it, the pendumlum can only stomp around trying to be hard but possessing instead a mixture of defensive agression and corrupted machismo.

[2002-12-09 08:13:13] Samosa (oi)
Sorry it's me again. Is it only me or do townies have the most annoying swagger under this forgetten sun? They walk around like their shoulders are on either end of a see-saw that moves to the left and right as well as up and down. And their hips kind of move in the opposite direction as tho they're attached to a psycho pendulum that's decided it no longer wants to be at the bottom of a grandfather clock and would rather do country dancing. Except that it doesn't manage it, the pendumlum can only stomp around trying to be hard but possessing instead a mixture of defensive agression and corrupted machismo.

[2002-12-09 08:13:14] Samosa (oi)
Sorry it's me again. Is it only me or do townies have the most annoying swagger under this forgetten sun? They walk around like their shoulders are on either end of a see-saw that moves to the left and right as well as up and down. And their hips kind of move in the opposite direction as tho they're attached to a psycho pendulum that's decided it no longer wants to be at the bottom of a grandfather clock and would rather do country dancing. Except that it doesn't manage it, the pendumlum can only stomp around trying to be hard but possessing instead a mixture of defensive agression and corrupted machismo.

My God I have Found my Haven [2002-12-14 11:43:19] D.J
I live in Hampshire, England and i had to spend year 7 in a school full of townies, literally in my town there is only townies i got bullied coz i didn't like townie stuff even though i the concept of townies wasn't there (hope u understand me) and i felt odd, but then at the end of yr 7 i went to a school in Winchester and im now a happy townie hating yr 9, luckily i too can fully appreciate townie bashing but to think if i hadn't changed schools i would be a townie and id be smoking, and id be wearing Nike, Adidas, Kappa, Elesse (nike isn't that bad but it's still classed as a grade C townie Make) And id be a father, my god i owe everything to my new school.
hampshire is full of townies! [2002-12-16 10:51:36] pooky
hello person who used 2 go 2 hampshire school! i know how you feel because my cousins live there and the place is full of townies! my cousins are lucky that their mother is amidwife so they r not becomming 2 much of townies because of all the horror stories they got from their mum about her delivering babies 2 11 and 12 year olds! although my 8 year old cousin has been asked by her teachers to stop wearing skirts because they're fed up of seeing her knickers everyday! lol! its pretty similar in cumbran(wales) which is also full of townies! i made the mistake of going 2 see ali g in da house there bcoz the place was full of townies and i kept getting funny looks cuz i wasn't wearing townie gear!
Those are good points, but... [2002-12-17 12:25:57] Kate
In my town, the more common label is 'mosher'. That tends to mean skater or rocker. Goths are generally incredibly scary and do not get teased, except by cheeky young brats (or reaaly thick lads in my form). Moshers, when teased either say 'Yeah I'm a mosher. So what?', 'I'm only a mosher for the music', or 'I'm a skater, not a mosher.' There aren't many goths, but lots of moshers, though they all look the same. They all wear the same hoodies, 'mosher pants' as they call them, and chains. They are not remotely individual. If you ARE individual, which is very rare, then you get labelled a hippy, swot, mosher, or goth. These are all considered as insults. However, most people prefer not to have a label, and just want to get on with life. I'm nothing, but I still get asked whether I'm a mosher. It's stupid!
Rantin' n ravin' [2002-12-22 08:22:32] confusedcat
Before I start, I'd like to make it clear that I do have 'townie' friends, and they aren't all bad. Secondly, I hate pigeonholing, but sometimes I am reduced to it when people are such stereotypes, so here goes.
I go to a youth club sometimes which is specially for 'goths', 'greebos', 'moshers' etc. It's a lot of fun, some good bands play and it's a chance for like-minded people to have some fun and things like that. 'Townies' wouldn't like it all because of the music and all the 'freaks'. You would think they'd have something better to do on a Friday or Saturday night than come along to a place where they won't have fun. But they come along and as it gets quite hot inside, people come outside of the club for a bit to cool down. This is where the 'townies' hang around and cause trouble.
It's so true, they start on people for no reason at all. My friend (I'll call her Polly) and me and some of our other friends were cooling down outside once when this massive group of 'townies' came up to us. They were male and female, from about 8 to 16. 8 year olds shouldn't have been out at that time anyway - it was about ten, dark and the club is kind of isolated. Anyway, they came up and started abusing us and such. One tried to steal my friend's hat, but he just laughed and pulled it back down. We all just laughed at them, because they were being so pathetic. We walked away but they followed us, so we turned back around and walked back towards the club. Somehow, some of us got separated, but anyway, Polly got pulled back by her bag, thrown on the ground and kicked and punched, by both males and females, when she hadn't even done anything. She's really peaceful so she didn't fight back or anything, and when my other friend walked towards them (he's really big and scary!) they backed off. However, my friend was really hurt and upset, she was crying because she'd been abused so badly. We got her into the toilets and some girls helped us look after her, but it was so unneccessary because we hadn't done anything.
One thing my friend (I'll call him Paul) and I do is take the piss out of the stereotypical 'townies' by saying things like "sort us a fag, mate" and things like that. Once we did it, turned the corner, and a townie came up to Paul and asked him to 'sort him a fag'. That was so funny. But they shouldn't be smoking this young, I'm only 14 and all this bad stuff is happening to me, what's this country coming to?
Like i said, not all 'townies' are bad, and i do have friends that are 'townies', but there are some that just shouldn't act that way. They just need to calm down and realise that just because someone's different, it doesn't mean that they are below anyone else. If anything, these people are making themselves seem as low as you can get.
really? [2002-12-28 02:13:50]
Where I come from, townies are girls aged from about 11 to 16 who where tight crop-tops and 3/4 length trousers and walk around like they have a dislocated pelvis
TOWNIEZ ROOL [2002-12-31 08:34:55] TOWNIEZ ROOL!
Hiya, i wod jus like 2 say dat townies rule and y'all suck! if ur so sad that u gutta say horrible stuff about townies then GET A LIFE.

i hate PREPS TOWNIES or whatever u people call them [2003-01-03 11:24:44] freak
ok im sick of townies preps or whatever u people call them in ya county i live in the north east of england and up heres its seriously bad with townies, they all listen to this shit called RAVE after dark or whatever its like really hardcore dance music and it has no beat what so ever.I hate them in the summer holidays my mate got beaten up of a gang of them about 5-6 and last november they thought it was funny to throw 2 fireworks in to a group of us goths,sk8ers punks and the fireworks just missed me and some other goth.What happened was well the goths wernt just gonna stand around and let this happen they chased after them hopping to catch them so the police could arrest them the police came down and never done nothing about this matter what im saying is townies preps get off with a lot of shit and they dont get punished!if they do get caught all they get is community service or shit cleaning grafiti off walls and that sucks they should get something more toughter like get fined or something or go to prision for 3 months or something
i hate PREPS TOWNIES or whatever u people call them [2003-01-03 11:25:37] freak
ok im sick of townies preps or whatever u people call them in ya county i live in the north east of england and up heres its seriously bad with townies, they all listen to this shit called RAVE after dark or whatever its like really hardcore dance music and it has no beat what so ever.I hate them in the summer holidays my mate got beaten up of a gang of them about 5-6 and last november they thought it was funny to throw 2 fireworks in to a group of us goths,sk8ers punks and the fireworks just missed me and some other goth.What happened was well the goths wernt just gonna stand around and let this happen they chased after them hopping to catch them so the police could arrest them the police came down and never done nothing about this matter what im saying is townies preps get off with a lot of shit and they dont get punished!if they do get caught all they get is community service or shit cleaning grafiti off walls and that sucks they should get something more toughter like get fined or something or go to prision for 3 months or something i dunno what can be done about these people
MMMMMMMMMM [2003-01-13 08:35:00] Chaz
Well i dont hate skaters or nethin as i do it myself but not the stunt stuffi cant do that, (wish i could), but here is a majority or greebos in my school that physically stink of crap. one of them actually admitted to gettin a golden shower from his girlfriend. I dont no whether im unlucky but all the greebos in my school are all a bunch of geeks. Im not a townie before you say and im not a greebo i class myseld as an average and i dont care if ne1 thinks thats boring.
My view on Townies. [2003-01-20 10:06:00] Hayley
When I was in town with my boyfriend, and my mate and her boyfriend, we were attacked by townies with screw drivers all because we were different and they wanted us extinct.

Things me and my friend have had said to us:
You sacrifice babies dont you.
Did you put a love spell and Dan. (I have better taste than that.)
Do you worship the moon. (Do you worship GAP- Which actually stands for Gay And Proud. (It does you know))
You cant wear pink, youre a goth. (Dont diss pink! J)
Do goths actually have sex? (Hmm where do goth babies come from? Lol)
Eurgh you lesbian. (Im not the one that stands alone with my female friends in bus shelters.)
Shes a witch. (How observant of you. Does it show?)
Goffficks. (Erm..if you mean gothics then Gothic is a style of architecture. READ UP BEFORE YOU INSULT)


Where I am there are two types of Townies. Johnnos and Townies.
Townies are usually the normal people. The ones that shop at Miss Selfridge etc.
Johnnos are the one that give us the most jip. They are the ones kitted out in Adidas.
Where I am, Johnnos and Townies wear gold jewellery and the goths etc wear silver.

And you know some Townies wear two stripes (Cheap adidas bottoms) Well they look identical to Burnees (Skater jeans with the two stipes down them) yet they have the nerve to jip us.
Im in East Yorkshire (ENGLAND) but my cousins in Taunton (SOUTH ENGLAND) dont know what a townie is. Theyre into nu metal (linkin park type of stuff.) and they dont know what moshers or townies are, and after all what are words?

Adidas is quite cheap now and because of this, Townie population is rising. Does this show that Townies are just cheapskates?

Our little crew (soz I couldnt resist dissing the townies) at school consists of all the rejects, including, 3 goths, 5 moshers, a skater and others, and we had these year 8 girls (Im in year 10) come up to us and ask if they could be in our gang. I simply replied with yes, when you die your hair black and wear baggies. They then said are you being sarcastic to me cos Ill bang ya mate. I said no of course not. Bow down to queen townie.
Just thought Id share this piece of information with you cos I thought it was funny. What I found astounding was a few days later when they came back and Katherine and Tom (who were going out at the time) were hugging. The townies said Oh have you got off with him yet. Kat said no. they then said well have you had sex with him yet. She said no. Then they tried telling her she was boring. Oh My God. These girls are 12. Talk about stereotypical townies.

If I change my pattern of dress (like one time I wore a light blue top and normal flares) they call me a slag. Most townies reckon Im a druggie feeding my habbit by being a prostitute. I dont make anything out of it (though I am not) so you shouldnt. Townies look more like slags to me.

I used to smoke and half of it was because the townies were bullying me into it but when I saw plenty of them doing it and coughing there guts up I soon changed my mind. That was about the time I stopped letting Townies boss me about. And Im proud of myself because of it. J

Im in top set for every lesson at school except science. (Yes Im a swat, but I dont care) and you dont see one single johnno in these classes. Many are indeed bright but CANT work. Not cant work as in brain wont let them work but more like they cant because there friends would diss them.

People have asked me before if Im a mosher, to which I say no, they then ask if im a goth which I say no to, the real stupid ones then say well what are you then? I usually reply to this by saying, I am me, I am a human you know the creatures with the biggest brains. What species are you again. If they are clever they will have a go at me if not they will then go on to ask me what a species is.

Just thought Id share all of this with you. I must point out that I have no problem with townies, some of my friends are townies but I dislike the ones who are afraid to be open minded.
If anyone has any comments etc will you please email me them because I dont think Ill check this site again.
Plus I used some of the info on this page for my youthspeaks debating competition on Labels. Gawd I am a swat. Lol.
Thanks.
Hehehe [2003-01-20 10:11:00] Hayley
Ooh sorry.
*tOwNiEs - ErM... tHeY aInT aLl THAT bAd - aCtUaLlY tHeY R* [2003-01-30 09:50:00] * aLiCe *
* I got loads of townie friends (im a grunger), but they aint all as bad as u say they are, ok so some of them are just pure bitches but NOT all of them, but yer i agree with u all townies suck, all they care about is being popular and boys and partys and fuck no's wut else, and to tell ya the truth who givs a shit??

People shud jus learn that others aint all the same as them, like if im walking down the street with ma m8 emma and we're all gothed up then why shud the sodden townies have to stand there and stare at us, if they dont like the way we dress and the music we like then they can suc ma nipple, cuz we aint gona change 4 shit.

xXxXxXxXxXxXxXx I LuV aLL yOu GrUnGeRs aN gOtHs, aLiCe xXxXxXxXxXxXx
this site is soooooooooooooo the truth about real life [2003-02-03 07:37:00] fuckin grunge bag head of the month 2003
i couldnt help but laugh my arse off at this site its class i stayed off school on the afternoon to read it thats how good it was
Wow... [2003-02-04 14:16:00] Rambler
This is bloody brilliant. Townies. Die. :( Well, not all of them. I have townie mates that are alright.. But they're from school, and we all have to dress the same at school. I guess they can't take the piss out of my clothes when I'm wearing the same as them. But if we knew eachother out of school they'd probably steer clear of me by a mile. Shit, I went round a mate's house and she stared at me like I was a fucking ghost, I swear. 'ur wearin bagy jeans omgomg lets hav a hart atack!!1' It's been the same with all my friends from my old school bar a few. They see me and go 'God, you've turned into a fookin' goth/greeb/punk/skater/retard innit??? Hahahaa. Oi Danny check it out man she's a goth/greeb/punk/skater/retard!!' Argh. I went to a friend's school one day.. One of my few friends who doesn't have a problem with how I dress/the music I listen to/my makeup/the fact that I get half-decent grades/the magazines I read/the fact that I don't watch the Box 24/7. Yep.
I can remember this townie vs. goth/greebo thing starting round about a year or two ago.. Or that was when I noticed it. And everyone started trying to be greebos.. Which was quite amusing at the time. They used to walk around in tight jeans and zip-up tops with 'Funky Diva' on them and start going 'I'm gettin' the new Limp Bizkit/Linkin Park album innit!!! Innit wicked man!!' They screamed it so that everyone in the vicinity could hear, too.
I go down to my mate's school to meet her and I've suddenly got all these random strangers crowding round me, staring like they've never seen the color black before. And I'm just like 'Uh, yes?' Lol.. Then the ones who can't manage to crowd round me start jumping up and down like rabbits on speed yelling 'Greebo! Greeebo girl!' As if I'm actually gonna answer with 'Yeah, townie twat?' Which I wish I'd done now..
Anyway, basically, in this town there seems to be some sort of war going on. I remember one time a year or two ago when our school was actually divided between greebos and townies.
What I find funniest is when townies walk up to you in wherever you are with your friends and try to fit in by talking about Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park. They can list band names all they want, but they still get ignored. And if they get ignored: 'You startin? Don't be speakin bout my mum, bitch. I'll break yourself.' WHY THE HELL DO THEY USE THOSE WORDS. 'I'll break yourself.'
There are some people who are just people, who don't have a box and ignore what you wear and what you listen to. I like them.
Did I ramble? Oops.
Jesus man, this site is brilliant! [2003-02-05 04:51:00] Courtney Love Forever
I have just read everything the 'artist' of this site wrote and alot of the comments posted by my fellow mosh friends. This site is so surreal, because it is so true, everything from the 'hard trendy' to the 'sophisticated trendy.' I was laughing so hard because it is so true. You mentioned alot of the questions asked by townies, well I remember one day a townie asked if i ate with knives and forks and i was like 'oh fucking hell,' it was the most ridicilous lame question i have ever been asked in my life i didnt even laugh coz of how stupid the question was. Anyway I do have some serious comments to add, I would stereotypically put myself in the mosher\goth catogry as i love the fashion sence i represent, (heavy make up, black clothing with brignt pink, etc..) but i dont listen to metal i am more into the 1992 grunge sceen (hole, Alice in chains, nirvana.) Anywho, like most towns we also have a townie problem. I live in a small town which has the famous 'bells bench' (a bench outside the shop bells,) which is townie central EVERYNIGHT not jujst fridays. As you can imagine the bench is covered in mindless graffiti (shaz luvs damo,) shit like that, cider bottles everywhere, rubbish and spit all over. The townie lads are about hmmm, my age 17, some 18, and they all drive novas lol. Everynight they sit on this bench with girls who are 14 at the oldest (no lie) and shout abuse at us but I personally have took a stand. They shouted 'freak' at me the other day when i was on my own and i turnmed around at mouthed off like little miss hard girl lol then i sed if they wanted a smack i would smack them all and none of them moved they all shut up, which is lucky really coz i released they arnt the leathel kind of townies which u can get. One thing i would like to say is though we all hate being stereotyped as freaks who cut our arms and sacrafice goats, so lets not stereotype townies as cider dwoning mosher beaters, i know alot of townies who are great fun, and i mean class A townies, they are great and some are my best friends so not all townies are the same.
harsh [2003-02-05 08:58:00] Courtney Love Forever
i just wanna add another few comments. Although I do agree that this site is true, i have released after reading and scruntinising this page i think ppl are being quite hypicritical. Yeah there are alot of townies who are biggot dick heads, but there are also alot of dick head hoshers\grungers whatever. I am not saying all the ppl who have posted into this page are hypicrits, but some are writing in saying things liuke 'all townies should die' when that is totally hypicritical because u are putting all the townies into a catogry that makes them out to be all the same when they are not. As i have said some of my best mates are townies and i love them to bits. I think ppl should think before they speak i am gonna stick up for the townies here because some of them who read this page got deeply offended and upset, so remember not all townies are bad.
2DC 4EVA [2003-02-05 09:06:00] Suck Us Off U!!!
orite wankers..this webshite is harsh as fuk.. since wen did "us" wear ben sherman etc :S.. no mate no ... we just take pride in what we wear no just sum old shitty rags tht have been ripped from lil kiddies backs because yas cant afford 2 buy gd clothes..i no a fhew goths ma self and sum are actualy orite.. just most ov yas need 2 go die
this is gonna make me puke! [2003-02-07 23:19:00] chase
I swear to God if you damn skanks, goths whatever the hell you people are don't shut up. What the hell is the deal with all the black clothing, baggy pants? Anyway I thought it was time for a "prep" to step in and tell all you skanks to die! NOT US!
why why why??! [2003-02-08 07:41:00] mosh!
hi,i regard myself as a mosher.im 15 yrs old in yr10.the other day i was walking home from skool and from across the road i heard this crude comment from a lil townie who must'v been 2 years younger than me."batty boy" he shouted,which.i am very far from.i looked @ him like he was a complete retard (which ov corse,he was),he then said "WHAT?" "DYA WANT MY FIST IN UR FACE?" he was steppin on thin ice and was being a complete twat,he needed to be sorted out.i said a few things,and did he and he ended up with a broken nose! it made me so happy 2 c a lil townie boy cry! this is 2 all of you retard townies: WHAT IS THE POINT? your not impressing any1,throwing ur random insults around @ moshers,its always gna end the same way.one day u'll die (not soon enough) bcoz ur so immature and thick.
im a townie [2003-02-08 07:44:00] kick ur ass
hi people,my mosher friend told me about this site..iv read some of the comments and i think ur all spacers! il twat u all...im 12 yrs old and im well hard!
kick ass [2003-02-09 05:52:00] Tarrie B
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA 'i am a townie,' u quoted 'i am well hard' or somthing u stupid little fuck its ppl like u who make me angry. I dont care what i am i get called moshr goth i dont purposly think, 'oh i cant go out in this today i dont look mosher enough,' and i dont only wear fucking black. I am not scared of any townies AT ALL, some ppl just need to release that most of them are all mouth, and alot arnt actually that hard. AWAY U MOSHERS KICK THEIR ARSES!!!
more of the same old [2003-02-10 14:14:00] fil
Fookin scallies I fuckin hate them they should fuckin die.....................I could go on blah blah.

Some scallies are alright. Some (the minority) are twats. Same for moshers, greebos, goths etc etc. It's the actions of these people that society notices, and everyone looking remotely like them gets tarred with the same brush.

You could say that this happens to greebos too - you get the generic image of an under nourished git in baggy trousers and an 'alternative' hoodie, suddenly anybody who gets classed as slightly different gets lumped into this category. I could bleat on like a poor little middle class boy who likes emo but gets told he is a 'freak' because he's not into garage or gangsta rap. I'll save you the bother.

This country is so obsessed with class and categorising everything into neat piles. It gets annoying, sometimes FUCKING INFURIATING. Before you accuse me of going on some Marxist rant let's just say this. People. Some are arseholes and some aren't, regardless of what music they're into and how they dress.

I've contradicted myself, no? Shit. I can really sympathise with people who've been done in by groups of lads and girls thinking the world owes them something. It's happened to me and people I know numerous times, and there's no point in it.

The trouble is, that ranting about it ain't gonna solve nowt. Neither is being some altruistic social worker. People don't want to change, perhaps with some justification, who knows.
Thanks for letting me bore you all to death.
[2003-02-10 17:05:00] Tarrie B
hey Tarrie speaking again, just want to comment on 'fils' letter. I totally agree with our country being very 'catogaristic,' (i cant spell by the way hehe.) Anyway on a serious note, since I discovered this site and reading more and more comments I am begining to get very pissed off. I admit when i first saw this site I was like, wow this is funny coz it is so true and slap in your face (well for the townies in denile.) But i hate to admit I am seem to be reading repeats and replica letters off the moshers\grungers\goths etc. I hate to admit I would stereotypically put myself in the mosher\goth catogry (coz as fil said this country is very catogirised,) and I am not dissin some of you, but as I said you are all saying the same thing: Some of you tell stories how you walk down the street and get 'goth' 'greebo' 'mosher' shouted at you and you seem very agrivated by this, but what do you do about it? You write into internet sites and complane about it, but do you actually do anything phyiscally?? People who feel strongly about themselves and their belifes\religion etc, stand up for themselves, and alot of you are not. Lets all face facts the sad thing in this country is we ARE in catogries, it is very VERY rare to actually see an 'alternitave' person, someone you would look at and so 'god they actually do look very different.' I know one perosn like that, fucking one.
If you feel strongly about your catogry (and come on as I said we are all in a catogry and you know it, even though we hate it,)do somehting about it. The problem is with us moshers grebs etc is we are letting them win!!! If a trendy shouts something at me I will shoute something back, I will ask them out, whatevr and they get scared coz 'moshers don't do that,' they afraid, they run away, etc. If you show then your true colours, your unafraid side they will be scared because it is rare, it is different and people are afraid of differance. So if u feel strongly about your music, dress sence etc, promote it as a strong thing, sont run away, dont let the arse holes think they are harder than u. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx I am not having a go I love you all, but do summut about it!!!
townies are just so thick [2003-02-11 13:15:00] dipti patel (UK)
townies think they are al related to eachother and it is so stupid, i mean it is. then they go writin all over their books and stuff, i love so and so, that so and so being another towny, and when they're all doing it, you like thinkin won't this get a bit too incestuous, everyone being related to everyone and fancying eachother. they have no brain cells.
then they think their "wel ard" when they stand outside a shop entrance, i mean what is the point, they just making the shop lose its customers and then the shopkeeper is gonna get pissed off and tell them off, then the townies go "we're calling the old bill on you" to the shopkeeper, i mean the shopkeeper is probably doing the same. they need their heads bangin together, it might knock some sense in them.
i don't consider myself to be anything, because i don't try and look like other people, but the townies, you can just tell that their outfits are straight from mags.
the thing about failing all of their subjects and it not being cool is so true, they will be packing shopping bags for the people that did well in the class, and the shame wouldn't be on the people with good jobs and money streaming from all exits, but on the townies that have to wok in the supermarkets and stuff.
the townies failing their subjects is one thing, and its the same kind of hard towny, that brings the whole class down with them. i mean if you don't wanna come to school, then skip the country or sumthing, but dont come in to school and mess up everyone else's education as well. there is just no point because if we get the message accross, that its the same townies all the time making us wait in class, then the majority is gonna outnumber the minority and the townies are just gonna get beaten up, because the spastics.
your article is gr8, and so truthful! thank u Ellie O'Hagen, u r jus so brill!
townies [2003-02-15 10:58:00] the defiant one
Thank u tarrie b 4 ur comments u made. What u said is entirely correct. I don't completely hate townies some of my friends are townies, but they are just nice, normal people who don't mind what I listen to. The ones who stand outside macdonalds and think they are black i do have a problem with, they're a bunch of pricks but if they start on me or any of my friends we tend to stand up 4 ourselves. Most townies aren't hard, they're mainly middle class brats. U get the odd one now and then who is a bit of a head case but rarely. In my area most of the "hard" townies are hard because they are pikes or gypos, and pikes generally are fucking hard. Pretty much each and everyone of u that have written in have been bitching about townies, thats far enough, but if they say something then u should say something back. There is no need 4 u to be scared of them they're nothing. Yes i do get pissed off when i see them outside macdonalds but 4 fucks sake most are not hard. None of them would last 5 minutes in a place like brixton where people stab u 4 just stepping on their toes and most would shit themselves if they got started on in a pub. If more people would stand up 4 themselves u could help the nation expose them 4 the guttless faggots they are.
dumbass townies [2003-02-15 14:08:00] Vicky
1st of all to all you people who have an IQ level of 2 - also known as townies - wearin fake gold rings and chunky chained necklaces doesnt look good, it looks tacky, tuckin your trousers into big lanky football socks does not make you look good, it makes you look like your too dumb too dress yourself properly, hanging out down the bus stop terrorisin old people should not make you look hard too your friends, gettin high levels in class does not make us swots and even if it did, atleast when we are older our job wont consist of saying 'do you want fries with that'.
cheers [2003-02-19 03:34:00] Tarrie B
hey its Tarrie again, ust want to thank you also 'the defiant one' for taking notice to my letter, its a good feeling to know someone is thinking on the same fucking wave length as me. xxxxxx
hooray!! [2003-02-24 09:30:00] mike101
at last!!! i have found a site which has the same opinion as i do! in my area (south wales) we call 'trendies' 'townies'. my skool is full of dem. der the ones who have to get all the attention in class and think der nuts coz dey smoke and av a coat like ones of dem saps in 'BLAZING SQUAD'. us moshers jus sit der an do our work whilst dey shout 'oh my god wot r u wearing!' 'u fucin mosher!' and wen we have our music on at lunch dey walk past in der little crew,(u know wot i mean, in a little group seeing who has the biggest coin on der finga. or who did worst in der last test, singin der j-lo songs. they see us and tink dat wot we r wearin is an excuse to have a fight!! der all fucd up in da head! PEOPLE = SHIT,slipknot. DATS WELL CORRECT!!
Grrrr [2003-02-25 14:05:00] Rahhhh
Ok, I have trendy friends who are perfectly fine. In fact, most of the trendies I know are perfectly fine to me. (btw, I class Trendy as someone who wears trendy clothes and it has nothing to do with their attitude). However, If I go out with my boyfriend who has long hair we get started on, why? Its only hair. If he shaved it off, wore rebok pants and white trainers he'd get called a 'wannabe' and the bullying would still be there.
I know this doesnt apply to all Trendies/townies/whatever you wanna call them only a VERY small minority. however, its that small minority that makes other goths/greebos etc... get an attitude with 'townies'.
My friend has been called a Lesbian (which granted she is) by someone who then admitted to watching lesbian porn and his fantasy being him and 2 women in a bed. How does that work?
Im just fed up of people having an attitude towards people who dont dress like them where ever I go. ITS ONLY CLOTHES! Its bits of material sewn together, at the end of the day does it matter?
I listen to a wide range of music, buy my clothes at trendy shops and alternative, it depends what they have in.
To solve the problem I think all clothing and music should be banned. As well as speaking, touching and breathing. (for everyone) Lol.
its me again... [2003-02-26 13:44:00] sevenhelz
woo, anger.

i think people dont actually act like what theyre saying. i mean, there are rants on here from people whor prolly lil nubreeds and wud really annoy me in real life, but becoz there on this site im thinkin oh yeah other weirdos like me. they sound really pissed off and on paper it looks good, they wanna rant at trendys, sure woteva but do you actually do it?

ive been trying to be better. i no longer categorise myself. if someone asks if im a goth ill say yeah, but ill also say im a mosher, rocker, gegger, freak etc etc etc. if someone shouts at me in the street ill shout back, usually "thankyou" coz frankly if theyre normal i LIKE being a freak. if they start on me i stand my ground.

i know trendies, i know scalls, i know other freaks myself, mostly i spend time havin a laugh wiv em, problem is townies often have the wrong sense of humour, and take offense just coz im not one of there "homies" sayin the exact same thing. meh.

trendies can suck. its usually the ones who you dont know, or who dont know you well enough to see that ur not just a stereotype. i think wel;l all have to put up wiv crap from people who dont know us. what else can we do? if we start on them for real were being hypocritical. if we take em at their word were startin on em. if we come up with a rational, intelligent answer were swots and chickens.

then again weirdos can suck too. some goths actually are those violent stereotypes, ya know? someone said in their town the only goths were actually scary. now they could be vicious people or they could be okay, theres some people like tbag who look fucking brill (to ME at least) but are the sweetest youll ever meet, and there are some who do enjoy causing pain, like kelly. she sucks. the only reason i would ever hang wiv her is if i knew someone wanted me dead.

as to speech. people skit each others accents etc all the time. its stupid. personally for this area i have a posh accent, it pisses me off coz to londoners im a scruff bag northener. neh. trendies do talk stupid but its just to look good. who are we to talk, copying devil symbols etc? to a certain extent we must fit in. them too.

neh.
townies should die [2003-03-02 08:56:00] freak
the reason so many people hate townies is because they think their hard beating people like goths skaters etc up and im just starting to get a little sick of it. Over the past couple of weeks and months ive had nothing but abuse and threats from townies and im starting to get sick of it as i call it its called *provoking* some one into hitting them so that person gets the blame for it, well thats not gonna happen and i'll believe it when i see when u say ya gonna beat me up. And u townies wonder why we hate u? fuck u man u can only do shit when ya in groups when ya by ya self u dont fucking act hard so dont fucking do it when ya in groups u soft shites.....if i wanted to i could get the next townie that takes the piss out of me done for discrimination seen as its a human right that no one should be discriminated because of what they look like or dress like, and another thing why dont townies get off with crimes? the police should do more to get rid of the townies off the streets cause all u see is gangs of them on street corners smoking shit just cause ya 12 or 13 and u smoke and drink doesnt make u look hard.......another thing id like to point out just cause i sk8 and listen to marilyn manson and slipknot doesnt fucking make me a goth!!!and just cause u call me a freak or loser doesnt mean that insults me motherfuckers!!!!so quit it ok!!!!its not right and its not fun it just makes u look imature and childish =) d=)--|--
townies should die [2003-03-02 08:59:00] sk8_freak d=)--|--
the reason so many people hate townies is because they think their hard beating people like goths skaters etc up and im just starting to get a little sick of it. Over the past couple of weeks and months ive had nothing but abuse and threats from townies and im starting to get sick of it as i call it its called *provoking* some one into hitting them so that person gets the blame for it, well thats not gonna happen and i'll believe it when i see when u say ya gonna beat me up. And u townies wonder why we hate u? fuck u man u can only do shit when ya in groups when ya by ya self u dont fucking act hard so dont fucking do it when ya in groups u soft shites.....if i wanted to i could get the next townie that takes the piss out of me done for discrimination seen as its a human right that no one should be discriminated because of what they look like or dress like, and another thing why dont townies get off with crimes? the police should do more to get rid of the townies off the streets cause all u see is gangs of them on street corners smoking shit just cause ya 12 or 13 and u smoke and drink doesnt make u look hard.......another thing id like to point out just cause i sk8 and listen to marilyn manson and slipknot doesnt fucking make me a goth!!!and just cause u call me a freak or loser doesnt mean that insults me motherfuckers!!!!so quit it ok!!!!its not right and its not fun it just makes u look imature and childish =) d=)--|--
Scallies [2003-03-04 07:14:00] John Mcghee
Sooner or later we will take over scallies and get our own back on them! me and a few mates have already done it once! a group of us went and attacked a group of scallies that were tryin to stop us from bmxin on our local skatepark! Long live mosher's and goths!
Scallies again! [2003-03-04 07:41:00] John Mcghee
typical scally sayings!

Dickhead! look at me
(you turn round and look) then they say,
Dickhead! wot u lookin at!

OR

(townies lookin at you knowin exactly what your wearin turn round and say), Are you a Mosher? Well Durrr!

Scally threats:

Do ya want your jaw smashin

or

do u want your eyes rippin out.

n e way, the other week i was started on by two scallies who r supposed to b from the hardest family around, I got punched about ten times in the face and the only thing it did to me was give me a nose bleed.

one other thing which is pretty cool is when a group of scallies start calling you, call them back and 11 out of ten times they will say YA WOT! then all you say is "you don't like it back do u"! then they will start walkin away sayin that they are gonna smash your face in, next time they see you!

there is one thing that i describe scallies as and that is funny!
if you are wondering why, it is because some of the things they come out with just make you burst out laughing and you can't help yourself!
A message from the co-author. [2003-03-06 06:59:00] Ellie O'Hagan
The name of the author has kindly been changed but I think at this point I should point out that I only half wrote this with my friend Karen Hemborough who is also a connoisseur of wit and genius, however I'm only referring to me in this as it's up to Karen to tell you her opinions herself.

Some stuff to clear up really....

As you may have noticed, this was posted in September 2001 which would make me 16. It was actually written over a year before when I was a mere lass of 14. So as you may have guessed my viewpoints have changed - also there were bits added that we didn't write so I want to point them out too.

1. I have never used to word 'prep' or 'scallie' - I'm not even sure what that is.
2. I have no idea how the bible basher thing got in there but it certainly wasn't in the original; we go to a comprehensive.
3. The 'here doggy dog' comment. What the fuck does that mean? Is it a joke? Is it a sarky comment? A metaphor for life? The mystery remains.
4. I don't think Limp Bizkit are so bad and I wouldn't mind singing like Miss Knowles (before you bitch at that comment, remember you instantly knew who I was talking about.)
5. NSYNC may not play their own instruments but they are very funky and entertaining and Justin Timberlake has a nice bottom.

You see, in the good old days before all the nippers discovered Linkin Park and labelled themselves alternative, me and Karen dressed rather differently. Anyhoo we got a lot of shit for this so decided to hit back by writing our own little thing and sending it off on a nice email adventure (which is actually how it ended up here). I have since succumbed to the ravages of age (ok maybe not) and don't really care about the whole townie issue anymore. At the end of the day, there are more important things to think about - for example the impending war (the fact that we wrote this on 11/9/01 being particularly poignant) - and I've come to realise the world doesn't begin and end with your social circle. I suppose I came to realise we are all shitheads on the outside but on the inside we are all after the same things and you can relate to anyone if you want to.
Live and let live; and nobody should be drowned at birth.
We all judge, don't we? [2003-03-07 09:05:00] Un-Labelled
I am neither a townie or a goth. I wear what i like and find comfortable and i'll listen to music of any category if i feel i like a particular song.
To be quite honest i think we are all judgemental of each other. I dont believe in the name labels e.g grebs and townies but how can we escape them if people keep using them?
You say that you are judged by the clothes that you wear but to be fair aren't you judging them? I believe we should look beyond what we see infront of us and consider peoples feelings and personalities. I understand in many cases people can be evil and unfair and they don't really deserve much.
Well think about it.
Next time you see someone you class as a "townie"
Don't judge, "unless they do try and hit you" lol
Because at the rate were going were gonna all end up bitter, or dead!
Rock on all!
nice with the muwahaha action [2003-03-18 17:55:00] dez
It makes me feel a little better and a little worse to learn that townies/preps are an international problem.

I went to high school (gloriously escaped June 2002) near Utica, New York, a busted-ass city I bet you never heard of.
We had the rednecks/agriculture students and the massive population of preps or what you guys over in Great Britain would call trendies or townies I guess.
There was a sizable minority of "everyone else," which I was part of.
My friend Drew and I were the intelligent weirdos who loved all kinds of punk, hardcore, indie rock, stuff like Fugazi and Dropkick Murphy's.
The preppies (who put us down constantly) and rednecks (a bunch of loud racist scum), though they avoided each other like the plague, found plenty to shit on us about for being a bunch of freaks.


By the way, another of my friends at college in Elmira, New York, has what she calls townies, but they are the local rednecks who don't go to college but instead try to molest the college girls.
Idiot drunk girls who live in her dormitory on the upper floors let the drunk townies in who are banging on the door whining and bitching and they come in and tear shit up.
However, they are too drunk to go upstairs and bug the fools who let them in, they just hang around on the lower floor and try to break into people's rooms and push random girls on the ground and out of their way.
actually... [2003-03-18 17:58:00] dez
now that I think about it, the townies were racist scum too. and fascists... I left out the fascists. Oh well.
hahahahahaha so true [2003-03-26 04:33:00] dimebag daryll
scalls are the most gHayest things in the world but things are changin in liverpool. you forgot one other thing scalls ask, GIS A JOB DER MATE
defeat of the townies [2003-03-28 02:50:00] Numair (samosa oi)
The only thing worse than a townie is a failed townie. unfortunately i know many of these. One girl in my class was a social outcast hated by pretty much everybody because she was so horrible, so she turned to townies and now attempts to do as they do even though she hates it and is crap at it. she is an even worse townie than she was ordinary b**ch. every lesson i have with her she uses every opportunity to push/shove/hit me and tries in vain to insult me. her list of abusive vocabulary consists of about five words: Dog, b**ch, fcuking b**ch, swot!? and freak. She alsoonce told me to get a life. i had real problems sleeping that night due to horror ather amazing onslaught of painful insults. however there is one thing that townies absolutely cannot handle, they go completely to pieces. if they start on you/threaten you/ try and hit you etc. simply smile. keep smiling and they get so confused that you don't hate them/aren't trying to rise to the occasion/aren't getting really annoyed so soon they'll have an excuse to hit you that they'll probably leave you alone, once they've showered you with more abuse along they lines of, "you're so wierd, get a life, you sl*g."?! how is smiling related with being a sl*g?
Why is nobody doing anything?! [2003-04-19 07:08:00] *SPIKE*
JUST REALLY SUMMARISING WHATS ALREADY BEEN SAID CLEARLY WE DONT LIKE TOWNIES BUT ALTHOUGH SOME PEOPLE HAVE MADE SOME FUNNY COMMENTS, WERE NOT REALLY DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. IT KIND OF GOES AGAINST MY PACIFISTIC NATURE TO SAY THIS BUT WORDS ARENT ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY WORDS THAT HARDLY ANY TOWNIES WILL EVER READ (ASSUMING THEY CAN READ). A LOT OF THE STUFF BROUGHT UP SOME QUITE VALID POINTS AND A FEW THINGS WERE QUITE INSPIRING BUT THE FACT REMAINS THAT MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE. THOUGH TOWNIES ARE USUALLY HARDER AND MORE WILLING TO FIGHT, THEY ARE USUALLY COWARDS AND ARE QUICK TO BACK DOWN. THEY LACK THE STRATEGIC SKILL TO PLAN A RETALIATION TO RESISTANCE BY GOTHS, WHO, IN GENERAL, ARE MUCH MORE INTELLIGENT. IF SOMEONE WOULD STAND UP TO THE TOWNIES IT WOULD TRIGGER RESISTANCE EVERYWHERE AND THEY WOULDNT FIGHT FOR LONG. IF WE WERE UNITED WE COULD WIN BUT APPARENTLY WE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO SUCH AS COMPLAIN ABOUT OUR PROBLEMS ON THE INTERNET. IF WE WANT THINGS TO IMPROVE WE HAVE TO DO IT OURSELVES!

sorry im just fed up with letting them push us aroundif anyone reads this email me or something
[2003-05-06 09:58:00] Layla
Hi,
I'm not a goth or a skater, I'm a retro chick & the townies just can't handle it. I get called goth, punk, scrubber (for wearing pricey vintage levis) and hippy (when I'm dressed like a mod).
My boyfriend is also retro - he wears tight flares and vintage stuff & has long black curly hair. He's dead hard & he chases people up the street and beats them up if they call us names, so nobody bothers any more. But the funny thing is that the townies can't seem to accept him as a hetrosexual male, even though he's got a girlfriend/stubble etc. Half of them think he's my gay friend and the other half seriously think he's a girl & try & chat him up sometimes.
May I put forward this theory? That years of inter breeding have left townie brains short-circuited. That would account for the repetative insults, robotically predicable behavior and inability to accept non-instinctive concepts (like birth control, boys wearing tight jeans and keeping your saliva in your mouth).
And as for all you idiots that have been saying "oh well, we should all just live together and you can't judge people by their clothes etc moo moo mad cow disease rubbish," try telling that to my townie-battered broken nose (it's not my fault I can read & don't smoke crack).
xxx peace and love to freaks everywhere xxx
[2003-05-08 12:07:00] Vicky
This site is amazing! At last a site which states the facts, townies should be strangled with their fucking burberry scarves!!!!!!!
gr8 website [2003-05-21 07:15:00] soph
this is a gr8 website and i TOTALLY agree wiv u. many of the ppl at my skewl r townies and always ask me these questions.
Why [2003-05-22 12:47:00] Goth
Why do scallys feel the need to anoy everyone I mean Moshers, Goths and normal people keep themselfs to themselfs but scallys seem to think its fun to anoy people and ask everyone they see for a fight and the younger ones who are about 11-13 seem to think they can knock any one out , I am bias because i am a goth but its not like i go around asking or forcing any one to be a goth or mosher like scallys do but its not just me all the people who arnt scallys think they are complete Dicks to
westside [2003-05-25 05:02:00] eminem
why dont you move then somewhere else then if you dont like how we dress maybe you should kill yourself you might get on there you say we all dress the same take a look at you lot we cant tell one from the other and it's got to be said you all fucking stink have you got something against water or deodorant we might where big earings but not massive whole through our ears and ring through nails and anything else you can put them through HOE
I love this site [2003-05-27 13:33:00] lol
I love this site, it keeps me amused for hours reading the lame comments. You are a hatefull bunch of people, I'm glad I don't know any of you (esp. the pacifist who wants to kill people he/she doesn't like). Your all mouth, none of you would say "boo" to a goose, stand up for yourselves for gods sake, stop being a willing (I think) victim. IF you can't do it now what will you be like in years to come? Are you going to burst into tears and run into the bathroom to make a voodoo doll of your boss everytime he/she critises you?

keep posting - I love it.
Eh? [2003-06-21 11:19:00] Sarah
Whats with you infedels?for christ's sake.Please,dont let this go on any longer.Why the fuck Im even on this site ill never know but JUST STOP,PLEASE GROW THE FUCK UP!!
Can't all of you get along [2003-06-21 18:02:00] me
It's been a long time since the last post but

THERE IS A DIFFERENCE between Scally/Townie/Tremdy!!!!
Scally= "fuckin wat, u startin sumfink etc". (socks over pants!!) and adidas pants & also big name tops usually carbrini.
Townie=dress slightly better than the scally, usually not socks over pants & not those adidas pants.
Trendie=Someone who dresses trendy!! stereotype trendy will listen to dance & rnb
Of course these are all stereotypes a lot will not dress like this or listen to the music, fuck most of them are nice ppl.

PS Why the f*ck does every1 need to label every1, cant ppl accept i like punk/punk rock/ happy hardcore/ rave/ dance/ pop/ rock/ rnb/ ska/ HipHop/Alternative/ ALternRock/ nu-metal/ drum n bass/ house/ techno/ eurodance/ trance/ fuck even a bit of rap!!

Dont hate cos u cant relate!!
[2003-06-22 19:42:00] kt
Don't you see by tearing down all these "groups" that you are doing what they in turn do to you. Don't get me wrong, alot of what you say is true, but you are being as judgemental towrds them as they are to you. And furthermore you don't look different, because you look like every other person out there that wears black, and baggy pants, all the other goths roaming the earth, how are you unique compared to them. Do you not wear the same clothes, makeup, etc. So you should really think about how you're trying to fit into a group, just like the rest of them.
woo, anger [2003-06-25 14:09:00] sevenhelz
ive stopped bothering to read the comments on here, its all the same... not in an insulting way. i just thought i'd let you hear a personal story that pretty much sums up how i feel about trendies.

i was going through a phase where i really didnt have any anger in me, at anyone. i had given up hating stereotypes, and tried to do as i say and not judge without first knowing people. it was a very dull period.

[2003-06-27 11:43:00] -
I'm not saying you shouldn't dress as you like but if you know what it's going to be like dressed in all black then don't do it!

can we please make the difference between trendies & townies. I know some nice trendies & a few ok townies. They wouldn't do anything to you the trendies, they might be like huh look at her/him but better things to do that fight. Townies probably would fight you and scallys definetly would.

Sorry to hear you got attacked but it happens to everyone scallys to scallys, scallys to townies, scallys to goths, scallys to skaters... well you get the idea.
kts post... [2003-06-29 15:10:00] sevenhelz
i agree that some people do fit stereotypes themselves, and try and fit in groups themselves... some of us try not to though. i wasnt dressed up in my miniskirt n stuff so i could fit in, it was because i wanted to wear my miniskirt an stuff. i wanted to look different from usual, and different from my mates... just coz it happens to be the same colour dont mean its the same thing.
am i the only one who comes back to this site and gets pure dejavu?

hehehe
last post ever, unless i get bored...
yours, "pasty heroin-laced combat boot wearin' horror show queen"
the youth must unite!!!! [2003-06-30 17:00:00] 'defiant one'
Soz to hear u got fucked over sevenhelz, nobody deserves to put up with that kind of shit. (Actually that is debatable!) It's all down to some peoples lack of exceptance in freedom of expression and their small mindedness. Some human beings are genetically programmed to be pricks. However i could be here all day chatting about that breeze so i'll get to the point. I was watching a program about bullying a few hours ago, Tonight With Trevor MacDonald. It kind of opened my eyes. This whole nonsense that is happening is basically bullying. At the moment i feel that our generation is quite divided all because of music and clothing, it's fucking stupid that there is such a violent divide between townies and greebos or whatever they are in your part of the world. This girl took an overdose because some little shits were taking the piss out of how she liked to dress and what her taste in music was. This is an extreme case of what this petty fighting can lead to, at the end of the day we are all young and we all get exploited and controlled in some form or another by the adult world. We all like to act stupid, get stoned, shagged, pissed up and have fun. Why can't we just get along, life is too short for this hatred. At the end of the day this country is a shit hole and we're all in the same boat, so i think it's about time we all just stood back and look at what we are doing to ourselves.
PLUR [2003-07-05 14:09:00] PLUR
PLUR
PLUR? [2003-07-13 08:38:00]
What the fuck is PLUR!?
[2003-07-19 15:21:00] harsh
i aint no goth or a greebo or wat eva and if ne would prefer to live life wid townies or trendies, as i c it you lot need to sort ur lifes out, you dont find no townies settin up no sites bout goths goin ooo we hate em argh lets kill em!ye i do agree, townies do have an unfair grudge against goths etc but at least they act on it, it may not b fair but they do sum ting about there judgments and dnt just right there thoughts on a site!
you say they were fake gold, bothered!who the fuk r u 2 critesize that?you lot wear plastic so shut the hell up! another thing is you say that we all look the same, wel has it ever occured to you that there is this thing that is called fashion!and just because you dnt like to follow may b u should just let them dress how they wan.n i no ur proberly thinin wat"townies take the pis outa wa we wear lets take the pis out of them" wel ur just as bad as each other n u shoul may b stop cussin dwn, as u c deep dwn ur just the same.
THIS SITE RULES [2003-07-25 05:37:00] Elmo
I duno wot the last person who left a message was on, prob viagra ;) but this site rules!There are goth hater sites too so its about time a towny hater one was creatd.Well done.Also, if the person doesnt like the site so much why did they bother 2 read the stuff on it and leave a message?! wot a nutter...... neways, good site n remember to add somethin in about how hideous rockport boots look wen teamed with white sport socks. Luv Mhairi x-x-x
Hmmm [2003-08-10 17:06:00] Ellie O'Hagan (the author)
Maybe I should ask for this to removed as I feel that some of the idiotic viewpoints expressed here are somehow being connected to me.

When this was written, I was fourteen and the only alternative person in my school and I used to get spat at in the corridors and stuff so I wasn't too happy.

Now I'm eighteen and luckily I've developed the insight to realise that people who spit at you because you happen to be wearing a certain colour are so hopeless it really doesn't matter. I mean for fuck's sake, I read a report last week that suggested Tony Blair should resign and the new governor of California is probably going to be the machine version of rambo, and you're complaining because some halfwit called you 'gotho'?

I suggest you all get some perspective and try to understand that the world is not your high school, and please stop offering to kill each other. It's cheap.
[2003-08-11 13:18:00] Ellie O'Hagan
If you'd actually bothered to read the thread, you would know this was posted by someone else two years after I wrote it.

Work it out.
SCALLYS ARE WHAT WE CALL TOWNIES [2003-09-02 13:09:00] Lucifer
I LIVE IN THE AREA OF NORTHWICH AND AROUND MY HOME TOWN ARE SCALLIES EVERYWHERE. WHAT THE FUCK DO THEY THINK THIS COUNTRY OF ENGLAND IS, WHAT GIVES THEM RIGHT TO JUDGE PEOPLE FOR THE MUSIC OR CLOTHES.
MY COUSIN IS IN THE HELL'S ANGELS MC ENGLAND AND THAT GANG WOULD KILL EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THEM.
THIS IS A GREAT SITE REALLY GETS OUT THE TRUTH. ONLY ONE MORE THING TO SAY:

FUCK SCALLYS AND LET SATAN PUT ME ON THE FRONT ROW SEAT IN HIS KINDOM TO WITNESS THE FUCKERS BE TORN APART!!!!!!!!!!
author chick listen up!! [2003-09-02 13:23:00] Lucifer
LOOK THE FUCK AROUND, THIS IS UR SITE, YOU MADE IT AND ALL OF THESE PEOPLE WORSHIP YOU. A NEW YOUTH IS COMING UP AND ALL THESE VANDELS, THEIFS ARE ALL SCALLYS!!
SPAT ON AS A GIRL BELIEVE ME AROUND WHERE I LIVE WE GET KICKED FUCK OUT OF FOR NOTHING!
WAIT UNTIL U KNOW SOM1 WHO GETS MUGGED IN THE STREET OR THEIR MOTOR TAKEN AND I BET U ANY AMOUNT ITS A FUCKIN SCALLY (TOWNIE)

HELL'S ANGELS MC "JOIN PEOPLE WHO GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THEIR FRIENDS"
OTT [2003-09-21 13:25:00] Abi
I THINK U HAVE GONE A BIT OVER THE TOP HERE...I LIVE IN LONDON HOME OF THE TOWNIES AND I HAVE TO SAY I AM A FEMALE TOWNIE MYSELF BUT WERE NOTHING LIKE U SAY I DONT WEAR LOADS OF HAIRSPRAY PRETEND TO SMOKE OR START FIGHTS...WHAT SOME ONE WHERES DOESNT INFLUENCE THE WAY THEY ACT...U MAY OF COME ACROSS SOME TOWNIES LIKE THAT BUT IVE COME ACROSS GOTHS GRUNGERS AND ALLSORTS THAT START FIGHTS ESPECIALLY PRETEND TO SMOKE AND LOOK LIKE THEY DONT WNAT TO BE ALIVE THEY ARE SO MISERABLE..YEAH SOME BOYS SHOW OFF IN FRONT OF GIRLS OR THERE FRIENDS BUT ITS NOT JUST TOWNIES...U ARE PREJUDICE AGAINST 'TOWNIES' BECAUSE YOU MAY OFF COME ACROSS S FEW DODGY ONES...U SAY WE DONT LIKE U BECAUSE YOUR DIFFERNT..WELL U DONT LIKE US FOR EXACTLY THE SAME REASON BECAUSE WE ARE DIFFERNT TO U. U CANT EXPECT US 2 BE NICE 2 U IF URE NOT NICE TO US...SOME OFF MY FRIENDS ARE GRUNGERS...STILL CLOTHES DONT MAKE A PERSON WHAT THEY ARE ITS WHO THEY ARE
[2003-09-22 14:38:00] Lucifer
Yo Ur ryt clothes dont make a person but they are part of the person. They show other people what type of person they are.
We were black no logo clothes because it shows we want to be different and are into nightly activities we like to be different. Its townies that h8 us because of this. We dont idleise people off tv such as townies pretending to be Ali G or somthin or based around hard football hooligans plannin to fight all the time like Combat 18. When I see the day that people can listen to what they want where what they want like they used to, ID BE HAPPY! until then all you townies trying to post comments on this page saying were just as bad go out and DEAL WITH IT!!!!!
Yay! [2003-10-05 11:47:00] Kate
Fabulous article, so so so true. Warrington's population of moshers is eriousley down. Go Bren! My choice of clothes, yesterday, was shouted about by A TEN YEAR OLD. What is this world coming to? Can't wait for the day when they serve me in Asda. LOATHE scallies, townies can be acceptable as long as no references are made to eachotheres clothes. In my year at school there aren't many individuals who don't love burberry and rockports. Thankfully I know most of them, so I don't die of frustration. All my friends are townies.

What I find funny is that I share musical tastes with quite a few people in my form, all of them boys, but they conform to townie clothes. Wierd! Considering some of the stuff they like, I would (stereotypically) expect them to be hung with chains.

Congrats again on wonderful article.
Crisp Packets in Ash Trays [2003-11-04 09:42:00] Matthew Coy
I hate those fuckers who put crisp packets in ash trays! It blocks the ash tray from providing its use and it drives me up the fucking wall! Not just crisp packets though, nut packets, beer mats etc etc

Really pisses me off!

Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.
omg! shut up u mosher freeks! [2003-11-05 08:56:00] townie_lass
LET ME JUST GET SUM THINGS STRAIGHT IN UR LITTLE DEVIL WORHIPPIN MINDS:
1)Im a lass.Im a townie and neva have and wont be till im in my 20s 30s be having a baby! not all townie lasses go out gettin pfegnant. and wot hear bout u fukin moshers is a lot worse!
2) Our "fake gold" is not fake! we have enuff money 2 go out and buy nice stuff instead of dressing up in what looks like sum fukin curtains and fuck knows wot else!(drain-pipe trousers nuff said)
3)Incase u didnt notice we usually have a reason 4 twatin u! i mean u look at us and say shit so well we twat ya!
4)All you every listen to is shit bout cutting your wrists and fuck nows wot else!
5) U all need 2 invest in a pair of rockports and take of the fukin shit make-up(lads and lasses)!

Soooo now ive cleared that up u can either go and slit ure wrists like a litle faggot mosher or change!
gd on ya [2003-11-05 09:12:00] townie_babe
gud on ya townie_lassits about time sum1 put these freekin moshers in their place! wot all this bout the hells angels mc? wot the fuck they on bout???
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA [2003-11-07 08:49:00] anarchist in the uk
Congratulations on being the first person ive met who uses stereotypes to be anti stereotypical. Hypocrit. You said you werent planning on getting pregnant until your 20 or 30 yet you tell us 'moshers' to go and slit our wrists. Well do as you would be done by so... GO AN GET YOURSELF PREGNANANT LIKE A GOOD LITTLE SCALLY GIRL!!!
Just a few more points... [2003-11-07 09:11:00] anarchist in the uk
1. We dont all slit our wrists. Frankly... FUCK THE STEREOTYPES!
2. I am not pro or anti scally in the fasion sense. You are entitled to your own rights and opinions its just that when you try and take ours because of how we dress it REALLY pisses me off. For example. One of my best friends went to hospital with a broken nose. Some Jack Ass hit her coz of what started as an argument between stereotypes.
3. If we want to slit our wrists then we will. Theyre our wrists and you can't stop us.
4. Even if we seem depressed that is because we are around YOU! I mean who wouldn't be depressed around someone who is exactly the same as them. In actual fact us 'Goths' are perfectly happy around other so called 'goths'.
5. They aren't drainpipes. Theyre baggies. That is because theyre baggy. No rocket science there.

ok ive run outa comments. Just remember you're unique just like everyone else. Unless of course you do dress in tight jeans and shave your heads. Dont they shave ur heads in mental assylums? Just a thought. Oh an by the way these song has nothing to do with slitting our wrists: Pretty much anything by marilyn manson, alice cooper or black sabbath, the greatest rock bands in the world. You make us how we are. So dont complain with the results. I hope in writing this I have changed the world but knowing that i haven't FUCK YOU ALL! I thank you.

I remember now [2003-11-07 09:20:00] anarchist in the uk
We arent wearing black and 'worshipping satan' to be different either. We are wearing black and pentacles/grams, 666, antichrist symbols etc because were saying how fucked up the world is. Which it is. Opposing the mainstreams is just something that comes with the above. And if we have to start our own 'mini fasions' then so be it. Besides if it werent for us goths you'd have noone to shout at, break noses of etc. So shut the fuck up with your whining. Wankers.
Stop calling us goths! [2003-11-07 09:24:00] Rob
Goths and Moshers arent the same thing just like punk and emo isnt the same thing. (what is emo by the way). So stop calling us that. To quote: another word for goths is people. Ok so i edited it a bit to fit. Noone can tell the difference right?
[2003-11-15 05:57:00] anarchist in the uk
I know I'm great. But i tell a lie. Some of Mansons stuff does have about having your wrists slit but by other people so i guess it doesnt really count.

And people should stop using the ash tray and start using the bins instead.
why? [2003-11-25 13:23:00] Tom the sheep shagger!
goths ow!! tell me why??
Eh... [2003-11-26 18:31:00] None yo damn business
I agree wit a lot of the things on this site except one.. Eminem...I think he's got a lot of talent. I'm not sayin that you gotta like him but he's a role model to a lot of ppl, believe it or not.
I don't know [2003-11-28 09:49:00] anarchist in the uk
I don't know why. We're like this because we aren't different to this. I think.
Eminem may be a role model to lots of people and you may think he has talent but Marilyn Mansons also a role model to lots of people and i think he has talent. Che Guevaras a role model to lots of people too but you don't see people in Che t-shirts tryin to blow up president bush do you? Well you might I don't know what it's like where you live. Hmmm lets blow up president bush.
So whatever you're entitled to your own rights.

What is emo by the way?
[2003-12-08 03:14:00] p.mitchell@salford.ac.uk
you've got some problems -
just accept people for what they are -
if not your as bad as them?
Thank u!!!!! [2003-12-29 13:30:00] Mel
Jeez sum1 with decent opinions on the whole "TOWNIES SUCK" (which they do) thing. All your views and opinions are really true, and funny at the same time. Rock on - Goths, Grebs, Skaters and Punks rule 4eva!!!!!!
2004 [2004-01-03 19:55:00] crossed sex fetus
just read the article (which i have to say is v.true) and thought that id get the satisfaction of having the 1st 'comment' of 2004. thats all i got to say, enjoy ur yr and stick with black, white doesn't suit you!
2004 is here [2004-01-03 19:56:00] crossed_sex_fetus
just read the article (which i have to say is v.true) and thought that id get the satisfaction of having the 1st 'comment' of 2004. thats all i got to say, enjoy ur yr and stick with black, white doesn't suit you!
[2004-01-04 12:28:00] Rob
Pinks the new black apparently. But Pink suks like a leech on steroids so wear black. Or red or Purple or green or blue or...etc...
All Townies Must Be Killed [2004-01-17 04:12:00] Deathcore
I Am A Grunger i have 2 say this first TOWNIES SUCK EGGS
not to long ago at my school there waz a non school uniform day all day there was a HUGE war goin on
Grungers & Goths v Townies
and all the "other" people were scattered into little groups in the playground

NEEDLESS TO SAY THE GRUNGERS & GOTHS WERE THE WINNERS WHICH GOES 2 SHOW

!!!!!TOWNIES SUCK EGGS!!!!!
YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!! [2004-01-18 02:08:00] Erin, Issy and Julie
Thats BRILLIANT!!! We're so glad that the townies are hated everywhere! YES! Okay we will be advertising our fabulous website all about them:
www.freewebs.com/down_with_townies
And please do spread the word, and please do give us feedback!
In response to MILLA [2004-01-18 02:24:00] Erin, Issy and Julie
townies sooo much betta than skanky grungers MILLA - Nov 1, 2002 2:09 PM


grungers, sk8ers, goths wot ever the hell u freaks are
i hate the lot of ya,
all you do is slit ur writs 2 get attention my m8 duz it and her reason is `because she is a grunger`.
GO GET ALIFE YOU SAD TWATS


Good old person who Posted this, what a sad bitch! It is townie tradition to slit your wrists for attention, general people actually do it because they are actually DEPRESSED!!!! And we should get a life? They think a life is losing your virginity at 10 years old, being dink and drugged up and hanging around in bus shelters or on park benches! They are not too bright, are they!
Thankyou,
Issy, Erin and Jules!
GO TO THE FOLLOWING [2004-01-18 02:39:00] Erin, Issy and Julie


Hate Townies?
VISIT www.freewebs.com/down_with_townies NOW!!!!

ur site rulez [2004-01-22 13:22:00] matt slater
townies should all die and quit with the highly intelligent, ofensive words...... like fish. and gay. and the classic ' your mum' hahahahahahahaha
YOUR AN IDIOT [2004-01-26 03:48:00]
Your a f***ing lying twat,you must have made up at least half of those 'questions townies have asked you.Like 'are you a mangled goose' BULLSHIT! a townie wouldnt ask you that, they dont say stuff like that.It does kinda help make your point, but your a twat to think that people will believe that different townies have asked you all those questions, and you have just happened to remember every single pone of them, nice one.
I'm worried [2004-02-20 15:37:00] concerned
Good grief, you're a hatefull lot, I hope you grow out of it and become a bit more open minded before you have children and pass your narrow-minded attitudes on.
fuck u all!!!! [2004-02-21 11:29:00] the defiant one
im not a townie or a greebo im in between i listen to rock, metal, hip hop and rap music. (i also like the odd bit of drum and bass)firstly not all townies loose their vaginity at 10 years old. i know shit loads of townie girls and they're as fridged as fuck. (compared 2 sum of my rock chick mates who of which are pretty loose, not the nicest thing to say but im trying to make a point here!)secondly anyone who slits their wrists needs either to be put in a funny farm or needs to grow up and stop craving 4 attention ur obviously lacking sumthing in ur sad little lives. iv got mates who r fucking headcases and most of the hard people where i live would not beat up a greebo 4 the sake of it they'd pick on sum1 worth fighting cos they know greebos never fight anyways. thats another thing greebos do get a bit of stick i have to admit that but if u were to stand up 4 urselves then perhaps then these wankers wouldn't say shit. most townies in my opinion r just safe, normal people who u can get on with. it is only a minority who r twats, and even then most are a bunch of losers who would crap their pants at the first sight of a ruck braking out, a lot of people r all mouth and no trousers trust me iv met loads of people like that and if they carried on acting in that way in the wrong place they'd get stabbed. but hey wot can u do?

big up this sight! it's interesting to hear peoples opinions and what shit is like in their part of the world please respond to this msg i'd like to hear wot sum of u av to say

peace
Townies r clones [2004-02-22 11:56:00] Iron Maiden
Townies r clones, u r all like FUCKING SHEEP, u follow whatever u think cool, u have no individuality by listening to FAKE, PLASTIC, MADE-UP, SHITTY, DANCE AND TRANCE AND IBIZA SHITNESS.
I agree [2004-02-23 14:20:00] Deathcore
I totaly agree wid Iron Maiden on this one.
Pikeys, and how they SHOULD be drowned at birth [2004-02-25 08:58:00] Pikeys_shud_be_shot
Just fuking face it. You pikeys have no taste in anything. You all look the bloodey same. Your common townie accent is shit. Your clothing is shit. If you have a problem with anyone different from you, you shouldn't start a fight about it because you'll end up losing anyway because your so thick as fucking shit that you wouldn't know what the hell to do anyway. So the next time you try to start a fight with us different from you, well you can think again and shove that idea far up your ass, where the idea probably came from.
Townies/chavs [2004-02-27 13:10:00] Amy
I totally agree about townies - they shud just be eliminated from human existance!

Where i come from townies are starting to take over! Their latest fashion is burberry caps (worn at a 45 degree angle) and wearing their socks over their trousers. For some reason they think they look good?!Many of them have the revolting necklaces with the huge rag-dolls n clowns on encrusted with 'jewels'.

Also i have found that many of the chavs from where i live don't think they are chavs....

Chavs also like to be in big groups - obviously all to feeble to be alone. They like dance music - woohoo- and have about 20 different compilation CD's with the same songs in a different order.

If anybody is from Middlesborough in England or any where near there they will know what i mean when i say the are everywhere!

At the moment their favourite words are 'necta' -this means the same as good-lookin. 'Buzzin' meanin excited. 'Mint' - cool, sweet etc. 'nowen' - hello.

They also contaminate every sentence they speak with atleast 2 swear words - its just un called for.

So thats all i have to say on townies
Amy
[2004-02-28 02:30:00] Pikeys_shud_be_shot
Exactly! I mean some of the crap they come out with! It's either something like, 'Innit!' or 'Dunni?!' And when they use all the words in a sentence, you can't hardly understand what the hell they are talking about!...(Not that i would really care anyway..)
??? [2004-02-28 13:08:00] Pikeys_shud_be_shot
What was that about?!
Go HERE [2004-02-29 10:49:00] A townie hate
Nice to see a few friends of ours are already advertising OUR site, but taking credit for it...tut tut. Anyhow...
If you HATE TOWNIES
GO TO www.freewebs.com/down_with_townies NOW!!!
And SPREAD THE WORD!!!!
ur site is cool [2004-03-02 13:00:00] ribster
ur website is kool,i often get called the following:fucking gitter,tramp,puff etc..
all because i skateboard it does not make me a gitter because i listen 2 the offspring and wear sk8 shoes
how does that make me a "gitter"?????!?!?!?!?
Shit [2004-03-03 09:18:00] Foley
It's fine to dislike stereotypical townie arseholes who call people gay, but a lot of 'alternatives' (and I use the term lightly) are just as bad. Calling townies 'sheep' is just stupid when you go around in all black with your friends, who all look the same, stereotypical 'goths' are dull! I know they don't worship satan or anything, but listening to COF (who I quite like) and pretending to be depressed is boring! The same goes for mosher/metallers who like korn, slipknot, and stuff, and also people who like greenday, sum 41 and blink 182. You are not different! Shopping from Attitiude does not make you different! I hate pop-punk, I hate dance music, I like real punk, I like rock, I like metal, I like some rap, I like soul, I like jazz, I like fucking beat-poetry! I have an eclectic taste in everything and do not hesitate to like something because it is popular, nor do I like something just because it is popular. I wear lots of different clothes, but mainly I just wear a nice shirt with trousers, perhaps cargo pants. I am English but I live in Wales, and I see many townies and mainstream spackos. All that really matters is peoples personality. But this doesn't stop me from wanting to crack some scum sculls.
I hope someone agrees with me on this.
Townies suck ass but u all no that! [2004-03-06 15:33:00] Death monkey
Hey great website and posts!
I hated scalls/townies wot ever the feck they r
But now i hav so much hatred i can't find words!
They basically have left me with a giant bruise down my back just coz i laughed in there greasy,make-up infested faces because they called me a mosher! Were I live (Chester) they go fight the moshers skaters etc who r quietly minding there own buisness. Then they get scared coz everyone wants to kill them and generally get left on bills to fight 50 moshers! Funny and very amusing hehe. Has anyone else had 'physical' contact? Oh by the way I'm a girl and got punched by a guy??!!
The Neutering of Townies, Scallies etc. [2004-03-13 13:49:00] Alex_the_townie_crusher
I totally agree with this site, townies (and other breeds) are taking over and should all be killed/neutered!
In the town that i live in they always hang out t the local skate park in a huge gang laughing at people who appear slightly/alot different to them. On the way to school every morning I get asked the same 2 questions:
1) 'av u got a fag?
2) u wanna make nummit of it?
One of mine and my friends latest games is yelling things back at them and seeing how long they take to react. Often their only response is somthing stupid like your gay or some other pointless comment.
Anyway, this site is gret!
Keep it up
Alex
shit site, prickish visitors [2004-03-25 13:58:00] fucking attention seekers
fucks sake why don't you all just shut up and go slit your wrists the right way, instead of side to side for attention - you give heavy music a bad name. "ooo im a goth" you say, listening to fucking marilyn manson et al. fucking wake up. If you want real music, get into Satanic Underground Norwegian Black metal, that's where the shits at - and im not a satanist or a goth.
So i say - fuck off all you twattish attention seekers, buy some oxipure or w/e it is, and listen to proper metal, lke detah or black metal. Also this site layout is shit. Visit my site for cheap, sweet-looking design.

Pricks.
this is enlightnening [2004-03-29 08:46:00] dead kids
Finally someone who has the truth-coming from a true hippie and a true goth
Totally agree [2004-04-07 13:07:00] Jenna
Completly agree, the other day me and my friend (who is a lesbian for the record) got called 'mosher' and 'lesbian' (although im not) and apparantly were goths, just because we were wearing black tshirts. They then insisted to throw stones, glass and anything else they could find at us. When my parent walked round the corner they walked upto me and went 'Whats he here for? it wasnt just me... u saw him do it aswell' Then i turned to one who was still muttering 'goth, mosher, lesbian, freak' and said "If you dont like someone because of the way they dress or the music they like you have got serious issues!" he made some weird... noise, like they do, put his hands down his pants and walked off.

What is the whole 'hand down pants' thing? Hello! Your in a public place

Cool site!!!
[2004-04-08 12:06:00] emmo
I have never bothered with stereotypes before, but after reading the previous posts I would like to see what sort of group I would belong to. I like bands such as Jack off Jill, SOAD, The All American Rejects, Hole, Placebo, Him, Rancid, etc. I wear loose jeans and pretty plain tee's or occasionally a "goth top". Anyone got any ideas as to what category I would be placed in?
well... [2004-04-08 14:28:00] Jenna
'Mosher' 'goth' depends who ur talkin 2 really. You sound pretty similar to me and just today i got called 'gothic' so... ur choice, be what you want.
[2004-04-13 11:46:00] Bruce Dickinson 2 b knighted...
any1 who has taken the neutral side, or what u beleive to be the "sensible side" are denying the fact that there is a 2 group culture, the group that is likes real music that actually HAS instruments in it, an HAS talent. and the other side, the music group that makes music with no intstruments (DECKS R NOT INTRUMENTS U SAD GREBS) and no talent. these two groups can be depicted as such, in the red corner we have goths, grungers, punks, headbangers etc. in the blue corner we have townies, pikies, trendies etc. u can call it stupid but it is ABSLOLUETELY TRUE.
p.s. the program that makes ibiza music is easy to use and cost 9.99, no shit... cheers big ears.
[2004-04-13 11:59:00] IRON MAIDEN
HEY! LISTEN TO ME U STUPID JOGGER WEARIN' FUCKS. did u kno trance dance, club an all that festerin' shit is made in 5 mins?! yes, thats right! we can all be a super-star DJ wen we buy the XACT same program to make "mixes" an "club anthems" at pc world for..... A FUCKIN TENNER, YES 9.99 OF UR ENGLISH POUNDS MAKES U A IBIZA STAR IF U FIND A PRODUCER WHO'S DUMB ENUFF!! NO SHIT BITCHES! THE EXACT SAME THING! I AINT KIDDIN!
revenge [2005-10-10 16:44:02] lem
so really are you THE most hypercritical thing ever. how dare you think you can say those things you are sooo wrong. Firstly it's quite offencive that you think we are all idiots, i got all A's in my GCSE'S and im a townie, so you've got that wrong. And really how can you say about our dress sence atleast we vary between colour, do you not realise that black attracts the heat from the sun, it's a wonder how you dont die of dehydration in the summer. and the shoe thing, WHAT???i believe you may have been talking about your own style of shoe we are not the ones that choose to wear platform shoes with random bits of metal to support the cheap material. And atleast we respect ourselves enough to brush our hair and cut it once in a while. and do you really think that wearing something that came of a sercurity fence, around your neck,looks good? dog collar whats that about no wonder we think your wierd. and as for hanging round on the streets, what and you dont?? iv seen people like you underneath a trees in the rain smoking and drinking so what we are all teenagers it happens deal with it everyone does it. Where do you get off in saying that your better than us because some people work in mc donalds atleast they will employ us we are clean, and i bet you eat there anyway so what is your problem!? i think you are THE most steriotypical person ever take a reality check and just look at yourself because clearly the real problem is you. if You choose to make this a problem it will be a problem. get over yourself. we are who we are just like you say you are we wont change just like you wont. Just because you have your own issues dont think for one minute that we can compensate for your fucked up head. so take a bath and drown yourself because really you are sad!!! xxx
TO LEM [2005-10-10 17:54:40] VICTA
YOU ARE SO RIGHT LEM I GOT A* IN ALL MY G.C.S.E.S PEOPLE LIKE US CANT HELP IT IF WERE COOL FIT AS FUCK AND HAVE MORE THAN ONE FRIEND WHO ISNT MADLY IN LOVE WITH US. PEOPLE LIKE YOU ELLIE LOOK SO MUCH LIKE A DYKE ITS HARD FOR PEOPLE LIKE LEM AND I TO SEE THAT THIS MESS (MEANING YOU) COULD BE STRAIGHT!!! I THINK TOWNIES ARE THE FUTURE YOU CARRY ON WORSHIPING THE DEVIL AND WE WILL MAKE ARE MILLIONS ON THE NEXT NIKE,BEN SHERMAN OR TOMMY HILFIGER. GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT ANYONE WRITE TO ME AT WWW.(I DONT GIVE A FUCK). COM... X
ur comments!!! [2005-10-17 17:29:17] rach
hi i dont wear baggies and stuff im a 'townie' as ppl say but i hang wid da 'moshers' and i dnt h8 them they r all kwl.

i wud wear baggies and stuff..... but..... to be honest im 2 skinny n they wudnt suit me.

plz if u want 2 add me on msn

heres my addy

x_x_rach_woz_ere_05_x_x@hotmail.com

i hope we can chat

your right tho coz most sacallies r dickheads

lv rach

thanx 4 reading this
ur comments!!! [2005-10-17 17:29:22] rach
hi i dont wear baggies and stuff im a 'townie' as ppl say but i hang wid da 'moshers' and i dnt h8 them they r all kwl.

i wud wear baggies and stuff..... but..... to be honest im 2 skinny n they wudnt suit me.

plz if u want 2 add me on msn

heres my addy

x_x_rach_woz_ere_05_x_x@hotmail.com

i hope we can chat

your right tho coz most sacallies r dickheads

lv rach

thanx 4 reading this
ur comments!!! [2005-10-17 17:29:25] rach
hi i dont wear baggies and stuff im a 'townie' as ppl say but i hang wid da 'moshers' and i dnt h8 them they r all kwl.

i wud wear baggies and stuff..... but..... to be honest im 2 skinny n they wudnt suit me.

plz if u want 2 add me on msn

heres my addy

x_x_rach_woz_ere_05_x_x@hotmail.com

i hope we can chat

your right tho coz most sacallies r dickheads

lv rach

thanx 4 reading this
I pwn j00!1!!one!11!!1! [2005-10-27 03:19:49] Emma!
I have to say that I agree that the majority of townies (or charvs as we call them in Sunderland) are twats. However I also hate the kids who go around referring to themselves as "moshers", etc. It's silly, you're just contradicting yourselves. I myself would probably fit into the stereotypical "mosher" catagory but I don't class myself as a mosher or a punk or a goth or whatever else. I listen to pop punk, punk, emo, some pop music so I don't see how the "goth" part comes into it but it's just the stereotyping really; wear a black shirt, AUTO GOTH! Anyways, I think I'm done, I'm lazy so yea.... that's me done.
oi oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii [2006-02-07 18:34:46] juggernort
oi oi wor kid im from newcastle there are 2 kind's ov people in geordieland chav's and goth's newcastle is the worst place for you to visit in the toon you have the green its a place for hippy's nd goth's past the toon you have a place called byker and walker for the chav's walker's the worst one so if your from newcastle witch one are you a goth or a chav (AND BE4 U SAY OUT LOOK AT YOUR PAST WHAT WHERE YOU) haha
oi oi again [2006-02-07 18:40:18] juggernort
oh i forgot to leave me addys geordieman06@hotmail.co.uk

any lasses from newcastle 17 over add is dont be shy haha!!!!!!
Kill them all!!!!!!!! [2006-02-18 21:48:04] Frankie
I hate the townys, preps, whatever u wanna call them!! They really piss me off! And they are taking over my skool!! The population of townys is growing fast!We need to do something about it!!! In my skool, there are goths, greebos, skaters, surfers, pinkys, townies, chavs, punks, emos, library kids, and the nothing kids!! Them stupid chavs are just as bad as the townies. (Im emo by the way.)
Kill them all!!!!!!! [2006-02-18 21:52:22] Frankie
By the way, if u wanna talk to me, here is my addy:
Angelonvacation@hotmail.co.uk
or.......
I-H8-u-4-eva@hotmail.com
townies suck [2006-04-12 09:07:46] zak
too fooking right dick head ya know ya all look dead ya gay scrot heads lmao TOWNIES SUCK ASS ............ and swallow
wow so true [2006-07-02 22:09:50] kally
what can i say that's the trendies round my way to a t

the questions are true no jokes i get asked some weird things to

do you slit your wrists?
do you kill your self often? ( yes, i am a ghost, how did you work that out?)
your a grunger, i hate you! (so?)
are you human? (nuh!! what do you think?)
why do you dress like that?
is everything you own black?
what do you eat? (no jokes)
do you sleep upside down? (no...your getting me confused with another species)
does the light burn you?
do you like dead things? (yes which i hope will be you some time soon)
and my personal fave.....are you going to stab me? (damn they know my secret)

what do you make of them?
The difference between a "phony" & an unfairly labled "prep" [2006-11-06 11:13:10] Jazz
Ruth, U have a point...and at the same time, U don't. I don't think the Goths, Sk8ers, Grungees, Punks, ect. R any better than the Preppys, Plastics, Gangstas, Fake Hippies, Townies, ect. Just becuz they claim 2 B "real" and "original and (maybe) have they're lip pierced, doesn't mean they are better/smarter. It's when they really R FAKE (as in: PURE PLASTIC) that they are jerks. My point being, if U LIKE (and R COMFORTABLE in) tight pink tops and beige mini-skirtz, then CARRY ON, and GOOD LUCK 2 U...!! On the other foot, if U are dumbing ur self down 2 B COOL, well, regardless of ur IQ, i would say U R stupid. If you are wearing (horrible) skin tight jeans and listening 2 Eminem JUST CUZ every1 else is, and it is considered COOL then, well, U R PLASTIC, and most definetly SHOULD be made fun of!! F*** U!!!

Well, that is my oppinion. Thank U 4 listening (altho i sincerley doubt that U did).

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