By: staniel [2002-04-24]

On Grace

and condescension

I've known for a while that the mindset that considers grace a virtue is still extant. I am not under any such misconception; I'm physically and socially fairly oafish and, while I have no interest whatsoever in the traditional sorts of lummoxery - watching football, performing manual labor to no useful end such as yard work, or smashing beer cans into my forehead - I don't have any desire to comport myself differently than I have been for as long as I can remember.

I do have a few pointers for those who would like to consider themselves graceful, though. Generally, when one over-analyzes any sort of behavior in an attempt to refine it, one forgets the simplest rules on which that behavior is based. The dictionary definitions that apply are "ease and suppleness of movement or bearing" and "the quality or state of being considerate or thoughtful". Some words are also said regarding a "sense of propriety". Now, the physical kind of grace is something I know very little of, and am willing to leave instruction in balance and smooth movement to those whose bones are not joined at odd angles by misshapen pinions, but since the Victorian days, the other definitions have been corrupted.

My main point is that there is a hefty difference between grace and non-confrontationalness. Non-confrontational criticism tends to be patronizing and is more likely to be taken personally than an emotional reaction. This can be illustrated by something that a friend of mine said while I was defying the laws (both physical ones and local ordinances) of city traffic. The error was the submission of "oh, pedestrians have the right of way" for "JESUS FUCK YOU ALMOST HIT THAT GUY!" The latter has a few simple responses, "GEEZ, SORRY" or "LET ME CONCENTRATE" that end the matter in a few seconds. The former, on the other hand, festers for a year or so and inspires me to write this article, and causes me to think "Who the hell do you think you are, anyway?" for a day or two.

The person concerned is a friend and one who I think is actually considerate, thoughtful, and maybe even possessed of a "sense of propriety". When artificial thoughtfulness - "yelling makes people angry, so I won't yell" - overrides its instinctive counterpart - "I almost died! A reaction is necessary, but nobody deserves to be talked down to" - everyone wastes time, the annoyed person doesn't get a satisfying outlet for their annoyance, and the annoying person never realizes the mistake, being too busy being offended by the snobbish response.

So I implore you, would-be paragons of virtue, shoot your mouth off and get it the fuck over with.
Neither Graceful nor Virtuous [2002-04-24 19:04:54] Jacques Kitch
Although I'm not religious, perhaps a bit of a mystic, the idea of a "state of grace" is not alien to me, I have experienced it once, and to a lesser extent, another time. It is when things seem to happen perfectly and effortlessly, without an effort of will and more intuitively than with forethought. Perhaps you've experienced that kind of grace, too. There is also the kind of grace that I see at the Washington School of Ballet or at the local dojo, the grace that comes from disciplined and well practiced moves. Perfect freedom is perfect action. In music, there are accidentals and grace notes, not necessary to the main theme, but embellishments that fill some of the voids in a composition, thereby making it more graceful. But I think that the mystical state of grace is a force that can be tapped, it is the key to greatness. It is perfect harmony or perfect dissonance, but I don't think that anyone lives there on a permanent basis, it's like stealing fire for a moment.
state of grace [2002-04-24 20:00:32] Grey Man
Sounds like the 'zone' of Michael Cz....Cs...dammit. Czsykmenthalyi? Stupid Cyrillic transliterations. Anyway, he studied the feeling of 'being in the zone' with various athletes, and postulated ways that zone might be brought on artificially.

I myself have been in that sort of state several times: everyone else slows down, the basketball feels much smaller and the goal much bigger, et al. The possibility of attaining to the zone is perhaps the best reason to play sports, barely nipping out 'ridding oneself of excess aggression through flying slide tackles'.
Hungarians = grace [2002-04-24 20:08:59] Soviet Salt
I think you mean Csikszentmihaly? Chik-sent-mee-high-ee in Hungarian. Not so graceful for the tongue.
Yeah [2002-04-24 20:12:02] Jacques Kitsch
Yeah, that's it. I had a course at Portland State University called "Halucinogenic Traing" that had students and atheletes using autosuggestion for better performance. But the kind of state of grace that you mention, and that I found, is more like a gateway. You are right about time changing and focus sharpening, things like that, and tapping into things that aren't used in everyday life. It's like a gateway, but I can't find it all the time, there's no permanent map to it, it's a shifting portal.
well, at least... [2002-04-24 21:19:02] Grey Man
I can spell Krzyzewski. But then, that's Polish.
Polish Notation [2002-04-24 21:33:33] Jacques Kitch
This is an unusual mathematical method. I have a Hewlett-Packard calculator, I like to hand it to kids and ask them to add 2+2, and then watch the ensuing hilarity. There is no "=" sign! You got to put 2, "enter", 2+! It's a differnt way of looking at numbers, anyway. At first it does not seem graceful, but after a while, it makes perfect sense. Take a number, then do something to it.
Csik.... [2002-04-24 21:35:57] Soviet Salt
It's not easy; I spelt it wrong, too. It's got an 'i' on the end: Csikszentmihalyi. There should be a limit, eh?
Csikszentmihalyi [2002-04-24 23:37:30] Jonas
Chick sent you high where now?
Smells like Taoism [2002-04-25 03:05:07] Andrew
Its been a while since I've read the Tao Te Ching, but maybe just maybe...

http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/gthursby/taoism/ttc-list.htm

When beauty is abstracted
Then ugliness has been implied;
When good is abstracted
Then evil has been implied.

So alive and dead are abstracted from nature,
Difficult and easy abstracted from progress,
Long and short abstracted from contrast,
High and low abstracted from depth,
Song and speech abstracted from melody,
After and before abstracted from sequence.

The sage experiences without abstraction,
And accomplishes without action;
He accepts the ebb and flow of things,
Nurtures them, but does not own them,
And lives, but does not dwell.

Maybe like tao [2002-04-25 05:57:54] Jacques Kitch
I found some similar things called joriki, kensho, and mujudo. Also, KATZ! (Korean): traditional Zen belly shout; used to cut off discriminative thinking. I'll try yelling "Katz!" It sounds like fun, and perhaps much like the local rebel yell. At least the next time someone does the rebel yell, I'll yell "Katz!" which should distract them long enough that I can steal their beer.
tao te ching [2002-04-25 06:48:21] alptraum
when i try to read that stuff i get the feeling that there is a dead chinese guy somewhere laughing his ass off at me. i mean, sure it's profound if you try too hard to think about it, but doesn't anything obscure and indecipherable seem profound?

wait, i'm enlightened now. my first lesson for you:

low is cold
high is not hot
stone is not idiocy
except for stone phillips
or pop rocks
the path is not the path... OR IS IT?
the path tastes like Shame
the path gave me a Wedgie
the wind is a river
except made of air
when the sage blows his nose
does the nose blow back?
Ah, yes! [2002-04-25 07:04:11] Jacques Kitch
The Stone Wedgie Path!
Thought that it'd allready been proved [2002-04-25 10:49:03] Wady
...that a state of spiritual grace can be acheived though gratuitious bacon ?
Ah, yes! [2002-04-25 13:37:24] Jacques Kitch
The Gratuitous Bacon Path!
Grace&Confrontation [2002-04-25 19:58:50] Jacques Kitsch
About the connection between grace and confrontation, I think that some people are intimidated by grace, as some are by beauty and great intelllect, or natural endowments and embellishments. Greatness is awesome, it is intimidating. I feel bad that I'll not be the best at everything, and probably nothing at all. But I'm not totally cowed, I have fun. I just got word that a friend who'd made it to the three finalists in a mural project, she didn't make the final cut. She is sad, but got $300 for time and materials; a booby prize. I think that aside from the occasional Gran Prix and jackpot, life is mostly booby prizes. Winning with grace is easy, losing gracefully is another matter.
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